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Old 01-26-2011, 12:47 PM   #21
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I dream of those. Not even kidding. My 1982 33' Thomas bus is the same right?
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:48 PM   #22
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I would like to think that I know what I am doing, however I would never go as far to say I am a good driver thats when fate bites your ****! Plus there are very very good drivers out there who would make me seem just average if that, haha
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:22 PM   #23
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATI-918522

At those power levels for track duty I would recommend one. Our engines have some harmonics issues that can effect reliability at higher RPMs and higher power levels. It is cheap insurance.
The only problem with that thing is that it's a huge pain in the *** to instal and remove. suddenly a simple timing belt job requires pulling the engine to pull the balancer.
Hustler is wrong- you do not have to pull the engine to remove an ati damper. See my build thread for details on how to do it. In short:

Drop swaybar from mounts (leave in end links)
Rip the radaiator out of the car with a claw hammer
Remove crank bolt
Put car in gear, Use shitty autozone puller or whatever to yoink damper
Reinstall with air gun or pulley installer

Adds about 30 minuts to timing belt job
That's it

I say u should get a turbo big enough for 350hp.

You can always leave the boost low if you are scared like little girl. "Big turbo" that is fully spooled at 4000rpm lines up perfectly with miata shift points. Also, when above 4000rpm spool is instantaneous with throttle on/off
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:51 PM   #24
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Hustler is wrong- you do not have to pull the engine to remove an ati damper. See my build thread for details on how to do it. In short:

Drop swaybar from mounts (leave in end links)
Rip the radaiator out of the car with a claw hammer
Remove crank bolt
Put car in gear, Use shitty autozone puller or whatever to yoink damper
Reinstall with air gun or pulley installer

Adds about 30 minuts to timing belt job
That's it

I say u should get a turbo big enough for 350hp.

You can always leave the boost low if you are scared like little girl. "Big turbo" that is fully spooled at 4000rpm lines up perfectly with miata shift points. Also, when above 4000rpm spool is instantaneous with throttle on/off
I typically pull it off with my hands, so please stfu.
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350whp in a 2000lb car is moronic. I would know, the car's in my shop right now. Spins 3rd from a 40mph roll, lays stripes on corner exit in 4th, throttle rotation at 95mph in 5th gear. The only "safe" gear is 6th, and it still pulls with authority from 130-155mph. I can count on one hand the number of cars that will pull away in a straight line.

350whp is doable on track, but you need to be reasonable about the expectations. Doing 12 events a year, you can expect to go through 3-4 sets of pads and rotors, 1-2 transmissions, 1-2 sets of wheel bearings, 2-3 sets of tires, and refresh the motor every 2 years. This is with a bbk, ducting, high-dollar bearings, and a litany of other mods done to improve part life.

The black car is really, really properly fast, though. It's a pain in the *** sometimes, but I love it.
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The black car is really, really properly fast, though. It's a pain in the *** sometimes, but I love it.
There is a reason I left my car sub 250whp, it's cheap reliable, cheap, and I don't work on it all the damn time.

However I must clarify that even at my lowly HP level I can throttle steer in 5th...without aero.
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:14 PM   #28
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You honestly need to order half your parts here from the states. If you are serious about building this car I would give Andrew (Savington) of Trackspeed your money and have him put every part you will need ie oil cooler, turbo, v band mani, dp, em, im, ic, bbk, rods, pistons, pump gears, os giken, xida, 6ul etc in one big crate and ship it all at once.
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Thats the other thing, parts here are silly money! It's the import duty that is going to be a killer though.

Sav - Have you any links to vids that show speedo for an idea of just how fast it is?

I would imagine that I would only be doing circa 6 trackdays a year. BBK is wilwood calipers with my own design bracket and maybe Fiat coupe 20v turbo discs, not sure yet.
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savington has a bunch of vids on youtube of his car on track.
I believe under the same name.
check em out


doubt you'll see speedo shots though
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http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html




Thats a 136.2

Here are some other cars you might know.

1. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 1:33.92 138 '08 600 / 1536 Chris Winkler
2. Devon GTX 1:35.08 136 0 659 / 0 DMW
3. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:35.80 135 '08 647 / 1530 Motortrend
4. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon 1:37.40 133 '11 512 / 1394 motortrend
5. Porsche 997 Turbo facelift 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570 C&D
6. Porsche 997 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395 Motortrend
7. Porsche 997 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585 Timed by Edmunds.com
8. Porsche 997 Turbo S 1:40.11 130 '10 530 / 1585 road&track
9. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:40.20 129 '09 525 / 1620 road&track
10. Nissan GT-R 1:40.45 129 '08 479 / 1740 Motor Trend
11. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:40.74 129 '10 571 / 1620 Bern Schneider
12. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 1:40.75 129 '06 420 / 1560 Motor Trend
13. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:40.90 129 '05 513 / 1437 Motor Trend
14. BMW M3 (E92) 1:42.96 126 '07 420 / 1619 Motor Trend
15. Porsche Cayman S(facelift) PDK 1:43.00 126 '08 320 / 1375 Motor Trend
16. Aston Martin V12 Vantage 1:43.04 126 '09 517 / 1680 road&track
17. Cadillac CTS-V 1:43.90 125 '09 564 / 1955 Motortrend
18. Shelby GT500 1:44.30 124 '10 547 / 1767 Motortrend
19. Shelby GT500 1:44.72 124 '06 507 / 1807 Motor Trend
20. Shelby Mustang Cobra GT500KR 1:44.72 124 '08 540 / 1773 Motortrend
21. Porsche 997 Carrera (2008 facelift) 1:45.00 123 '08 345 / 1415 Car and Driver
22. Jaguar XFR 1:45.37 123 '09 510 / 1960 Motortrend
23. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 1:45.70 123 '10 432 / 1750 Motor Trend
24. Lotus Exige 240R 1:45.82 123 '05 247 / 941 Motortrend
25. Toyota Supra RZ 1:45.87 122 '94 284 / 1640 Kurosawa Motoharu
26. BMW 135i Coupe (E82) 1:46.00 122 '07 306 / 1485 Motortrend
27. Nissan Nismo 370Z 1:46.50 122 '09 355 / 1500 Motortrend
28. Porsche Cayman S 1:47.58 121 '05 295 / 1406 Motortrend
29. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR 1:47.71 120 '08 295 / 1585 MotorTrend
30. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 1:47.75 120 '08 260 / 1352 Motor Trend
31. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 1:47.93 120 '05 290 / 1482 Motortrend
32. BMW 335i Coupe 1:49.04 119 '06 306 / 1610 Motortrend
33. Porsche 997 Carrera S 1:50.00 118 '04 355 / 1420 Motortrend
34. Mazda 3 MPS 1:50.38 117 '06 260 / 1485 Motortrend
35. Mazda RX-8 1:50.42 117 '02 231 / 1400 Motor Trend
36. Honda S2000 1:50.74 117 '99 239 / 1260 Motortrend
37. Mini Mini Cooper S Works GP Kit 1:51.73 116 '06 218 / 1180 Motortrend
38. Mini Cooper S (Mk II) 1:51.98 116 '06 174 / 1206 Motortrend
39. Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 1:52.20 116 '09 160 / 1165 Motortrend
40. Honda Civic SI 1:54.99 113 '06 197 / 1330 Motortrend
41. Honda NSX 1:57.00 111 '04 280 / 1330 Jeremy Clarkson
42. Chevrolet Camaro Z28 82 2:05.80 103 '82 193 / 0 Motortrend
43. Ford Mustang GT V8 82 2:09.90 100 '82 231 / 1483 Motortrend
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350whp in a 2000lb car is moronic. I would know, the car's in my shop right now. Spins 3rd from a 40mph roll, lays stripes on corner exit in 4th, throttle rotation at 95mph in 5th gear. The only "safe" gear is 6th, and it still pulls with authority from 130-155mph. I can count on one hand the number of cars that will pull away in a straight line. .
Weight reduction FTW. 350hp in a 2000lb car = 420hp in a 2400lb car. Maybe I should add some lightness.

I'm curious- what cars pull away from you in a straight line?
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Sav - Have you any links to vids that show speedo for an idea of just how fast it is?

I haven't had a speedo in my car for a while, sadly, but I will be putting a Racepak in it this year with dash overlay into the video for general hilarity. Until then, the top of 3rd gear is 80mph, top of 4th is 100mph, top of 5th is ~130mph, and the top of 6th is 154mph. The car gets through 3-4-5 pretty damn quick.
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