Engine removal- from above or below? - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-05-2016, 04:50 PM   #1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Reno/Tahoe
Posts: 159
Total Cats: 2
Default Engine removal- from above or below?

Hey all,

It seems pretty easy to drop the engine down versus pull it with a cherry picker?

I have a lift and air.

Any thoughts?
dwink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 04:56 PM   #2
Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof
iTrader: (3)
 
psyber_0ptix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 3,714
Total Cats: 320
Default

Pulling it from top isn't that big a deal. I did mine alone with hand tools in 2.5 hours, and another 2.5 hours to reinstall.

If you ever plan on switching your subframe or updating the bushings in your control arms, the lift would be plenty useful to use to drop it from below.
psyber_0ptix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 05:59 PM   #3
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,107
Default

Out the too with the trans attached. Lifting the car off and trying to get the engine out from underneath would be way more work.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 06:00 PM   #4
Junior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 421
Total Cats: 9
Default

I've never had a lift, so I use a engine hoist and take engine/trans as one. Easy enough
slammed200 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 06:16 PM   #5
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,107
Default

Even with lifting the body off the engine, you would still have to attach an engine hoist to lift the motor to put on a stand. To me it just seems like a ton of extra work with zero benefit.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #6
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,904
Total Cats: 1,793
Default

dropping the engine down sounds like something someone on cr.net would do.
Braineack is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 07:21 PM   #7
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Reno/Tahoe
Posts: 159
Total Cats: 2
Default

MEOW
dwink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 02:40 AM   #8
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36,206
Total Cats: 2,587
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
dropping the engine down sounds like something someone on cr.net would do.
liek dis?
I never go on cr.net for fear of my sanity




I've also done the MT way



Both pretty easy, but only if you haz a forklift and lift like I haz
I'd never do "from below" without lift and forklift doe.
Don't be a moran
Attached Thumbnails
Engine removal- from above or below?-img_00240.jpg   Engine removal- from above or below?-img_00239.jpg   Engine removal- from above or below?-cam00595.jpg  
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 02:58 AM   #9
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
aidandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Beaverton, USA
Posts: 17,999
Total Cats: 1,466
Default

Vlad likes a good power bottom.
aidandj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 04:45 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 784
Total Cats: 104
Default

Did a Mustang last week like this, was putting the engine back in though. Worked out pretty good actually. It won't drop in from the top with those headers attached so that's why. Motor mounts are also a bitch to get to without removing the headers as well.


Attached Thumbnails
Engine removal- from above or below?-80-12565443_10153923509247533_2463404107174152086_n_32bf86fcedbd6dff3237eceb2e7d2bb9e18d801f.jpg  
Arca_ex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 09:55 AM   #11
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,904
Total Cats: 1,793
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
liek dis?
I never go on cr.net for fear of my sanity




I've also done the MT way



Both pretty easy, but only if you haz a forklift and lift like I haz
I'd never do "from below" without lift and forklift doe.
Don't be a moran
Without trans is NOT mt way.
Braineack is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 04:30 PM   #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Elgin, SC
Posts: 359
Total Cats: -4
Default





Like dis.
Attached Thumbnails
Engine removal- from above or below?-80-wp_20150311_17_25_34_pro_a855291a099e60e9dd1a5e5e6d9d90e8fff2599d.jpg  
whinin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 04:56 PM   #13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Melissa, TX
Posts: 172
Total Cats: 20
Default



Like Dat
Attached Thumbnails
Engine removal- from above or below?-80-20150308_132511_jpg_jpeg_08e63bd145efae587aeb301e1a537948812cf0ae.jpg  
Ziggo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2016, 05:25 PM   #14
Elite Member
 
codrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 3,878
Total Cats: 344
Default

Or dis:



That said, if you have a 2-post lift and have reason to want both the engine and the diff out, dropping the roller skate out of the bottom isn't an bad way to do it.

--Ian
Attached Thumbnails
Engine removal- from above or below?-engine-out1.jpg  
codrus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 06:41 AM   #15
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Trona,ca
Posts: 72
Total Cats: -3
Default

I've gone through the top and bottom...
Top is faster and easier for me...
No lift/forklift
bonez8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 08:46 AM   #16
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Downmented's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 485
Total Cats: 59
Default

I have done out of the top with trans attached, and I have now done it out of the bottom. Personally I found it easier to pull it out of the bottom with everything attached, however I will be replacing a vast majority of those components when I reinstall so for me it was the best solution to bring it all out together. I used a hoist to lower the engine/ subframe and everything down onto a rolling dolly and then used the hoist to lift the front of the car up while i slid the rolling assembly out of the bottom. From start to finish was just under 4 hours with me and a friend. I think ultimately its persona preference. When i pulled it out of the top and attempted to put it back in it was a bitch getting the motor mounts lined up. Just depends on what you're pulling it out to do, and what tools/ resources you have available.
Downmented is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 03:04 PM   #17
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,392
Total Cats: 58
Default

Swapping the inspection engine in once every year I start to get quite used to pop it out over the fender (no space in front) with the trans still in the car.

Pulling things out the bottom is faster when you don't care about subframe alignment. So for stripping Dow to scrap, sure.

But I have a tendency for doing things in the wrong order, like changing a 6speed without taking down the propshaft (yes, the engine was out), transmission in one hand and the yoke in the other
NiklasFalk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 03:20 PM   #18
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,780
Total Cats: 1,107
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk View Post
Swapping the inspection engine in once every year I start to get quite used to pop it out over the fender (no space in front) with the trans still in the car.

Pulling things out the bottom is faster when you don't care about subframe alignment. So for stripping Dow to scrap, sure.

But I have a tendency for doing things in the wrong order, like changing a 6speed without taking down the propshaft (yes, the engine was out), transmission in one hand and the yoke in the other
I find it fascinating when I hear people pull the miata engine without the trans. I did that once with Braineack and getting the engine back in, and then trans attached was a bigger pita then just pulling them both together. It is doable, just took us far longer.
shuiend is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 03:23 PM   #19
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (1)
 
OGRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,764
Total Cats: 46
Default

i drop mine out of the bottom. iv'e done it so many times, it can be removed in under an hour. 20 min of i don't care about a mess.
OGRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 03:28 PM   #20
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,372
Total Cats: 1,335
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OGRacing View Post
i drop mine out of the bottom. iv'e done it so many times, it can be removed in under an hour. 20 min of i don't care about a mess.
You should probably mention that you're pulling an LS, not a BP.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thoughts on this cheap cast mani? NicDrilling DIY Turbo Discussion 100 04-17-2017 04:13 PM
BP Head Lifting AL4SPN Engine Performance 66 02-09-2017 01:24 PM
Pretty Sure My Engine A-Splode. Please Help. PJnB Engine Performance 70 03-17-2016 03:34 AM
Valve spring installed pressures and valve lift gdoehl Engine Performance 7 01-29-2016 01:31 PM
Bp engine hardware ? Utefan66 Engine Performance 5 01-25-2016 03:53 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:10 AM.