Fab9 COPS kit?
#43
I'm guessing its mainly cost. And not having to worry about dwell. Having an ecu is a big decision for most people. And 300 bucks is nothing to someone that owns a 10K dollar race car, but to the backyard mechanic/average enthusiast its almost as much as new tires/ timing belt/maintenance parts. SO its a tough one because 300 is okay for most, its just the ecu/tuning that brings the costs up to 1K. (all new components, I'm sure you can find everything cheaply for that 90 model you may have, but I have a 2000 parts are just a little harder to find)
SO in the end 250 vs 1000. That it.
SO in the end 250 vs 1000. That it.
#46
well it seems that FAB9 has uploaded the connector us 99-00 need. Amazing how this guy works.
Linky
Still wondering what kinda components are offered...Using the AEM brand controller only leaves 79 bucks to buy one coil, so I feel that there might be use of inferior components. Hm.....
Then there's the fact that it doesnt have the aem pt number or writing on the front of the controller. I really want to spend my money, but its sketchy.
Linky
Still wondering what kinda components are offered...Using the AEM brand controller only leaves 79 bucks to buy one coil, so I feel that there might be use of inferior components. Hm.....
Then there's the fact that it doesnt have the aem pt number or writing on the front of the controller. I really want to spend my money, but its sketchy.
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Probably because its not an AEM. It looks like one but according to the thread on Mazda-speed and m.net, its a Bosch part.
Fab9 Coil-on Plug - MX-5 Miata Forum
Fab9 Coil On Plug Conversion Kits - Now Shipping
Fab9 Coil-on Plug - MX-5 Miata Forum
Fab9 Coil On Plug Conversion Kits - Now Shipping
Kit includes:
• DENSO Iridium IK24 spark plugs (compatible with pencil coils) Kit is designed to support up to a system running 24lbs of boost pressure
• 4 DENSO CDI Compatible Pencil Coils
• 1 Bosch CD Ignition Module
• Complete wire harness
• Wire pin-out reference guide
• DENSO Iridium IK24 spark plugs (compatible with pencil coils) Kit is designed to support up to a system running 24lbs of boost pressure
• 4 DENSO CDI Compatible Pencil Coils
• 1 Bosch CD Ignition Module
• Complete wire harness
• Wire pin-out reference guide
#51
I won't comment on comparing the kits because I've never used the Toyota Coils but I can tell you what I offer.
I should mention:
- We're overwhelmed with orders so you can expect a 2-3 week turn around time.
- Some DIY Megasquirt ECU's have required modification to drive our ignition module properly (you must use 4 ignition outputs because of the weaker output signal).
- We are currently pushing 400+ whp with the same kit I ship to our customers.
- They do not need any sort of extra tie down or fastening bracket
- We offer completely PNP solutions
- Our kit also works very well with the factory ECU (you won't burn up coils).
- You'll be purchasing completely new components, with a warranty. Nothing picked off of a used Toyota.
- We've shipped 230+ kits in the past 4 months with one single return.
- Our kit IS compatible with every valve cover - Including VVT.
I should mention:
- We're overwhelmed with orders so you can expect a 2-3 week turn around time.
- Some DIY Megasquirt ECU's have required modification to drive our ignition module properly (you must use 4 ignition outputs because of the weaker output signal).
#54
DIY NB2 Coil On Plug Option - 1997 Mazda MX-5 Miata Long-Term Road Test
Coils: '08-'09 Honda CBR1000RR; Denso p/n 129700-5150
Igniter: '97-'01 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo 8D0905351
Coils: '08-'09 Honda CBR1000RR; Denso p/n 129700-5150
Igniter: '97-'01 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo 8D0905351
All told, DIY'ing this is only slightly cheaper than buying Fab9's kit, after the parts, connectors, wiring, etc. I'll be sitting right around $200 if you include the new terminal die for my ratchet crimper (which will get much more use than just this project). I could have saved by waiting for a better deal on used coils (~$20) and by getting a new Chinese igniter instead of a used Bosch (~$15). I am saving because I'm pretty sure the Iridium plugs I have use the screw on terminal adapter, and I already have expandable braided sleeving, heat shrink, a soldering iron, silver solder, etc. I am not saving because I will need a tach adapter of some sort. I am going to try the TachAdapter from AutoSport Labs and wrap it into the first part of the harness.
My plot here is to delete the OEM coil pack so I can do a spacerless reroute with the 1.8 water neck after tapping the boss on the passenger side for a heater core fitting and using the plugged passage for the temp sensor. Then I will swap my 99 engine/subframe into my car. Mod after that will be MS3, and either sell this setup and move to LS2 coils, or run it till it fails.
Edit:
Manufacturer is TE Connectivity.
828904-1 JPT Contact Wire Seal 1.2-2.1mm Insulation
828905-1 JPT Contact Wire Seal 2.2-3.0mm Insulation
282192-1 4-Pos JPT Connector Spring Lock
282193-1 5-Pos JPT Connector Spring Lock
2-964286-1 JPT Receptacle Contacts, Gold Plated 17-20AWG
I also found this in the catalog, it comes in a 4-pos and I don't know if it's needed but it's cheap and I'm getting one anyway.
963208-1 4-Pos Terminal Seal
Last edited by TheScaryOne; 05-03-2014 at 12:59 AM. Reason: Mo' Stuff
#55
This being said it really boils down to your situation. Even for the guys running a custom management system, our "Hard-wire" kit is only $259.00 and is ready for full-sequential and 4 channel wasted spark setups.
A couple of things to consider is the build quality. We assemble on average 4 kits a day at this point so we've become very efficient. All measurements are precise and we use high quality materials - nylon flexible sheathing, adhesive shrink tubing...
All joints are soldered and properly sealed with marine quality adhesive shrink tubing.
And as a bonus we will sell you an intercooler and it and still only pay our $9 flat rate shipping.
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I've got a used TSE bracket and I happen to be using the same coil PN TSE ships with their kit, but I picked them up used before TSE even had their kit on the market. I've got 6-7 coils and at least 2 of them have "issues" after abusing them with my stock ECU but I've been too lazy to sort them out and re-install the TSE style kit.
I'm one of those guys who opted to pick up the Fab9 kit "sans assembly" so I could do my own harness and wire routing. I still have not figured out where to mount the module and until I do that, I won't have the harness done and I won't be able to test it.
I also have LS2 truck coils somewhere
The goal is to eventually build legit PNP harnesses for ALLTHECOILS but I'm nowhere near that yet. Ignition options: I haz them. I swear I'm going to have the most over built car on the planet.
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