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Old 08-22-2012, 01:49 AM   #81
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What the hell happened to this thread while I was gone?!


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That's not a good thing.

Go read his build thread.

This is just me, and i'm sure he'll take it the wrong way. But if i was looking for advice from someone on what to do, or what not to do i would not do anything that man has done.

Must i copy paste pictures?
I've read his thread from beging to end. Plenty of gory things going on(now I understand the sawzall) the reason I said I appreciate him sharing his knowledge is because hes clearly done things multiple times based off his thread and by now id figure he knows the right way to do some things.

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Agree completely and will be running the 99 mani. Look at the dyno's; a gutted VTCS seems to be just a VICS stuck on low RPM mode.
I guess it wouldnt hurt to look into a VVT head. I mean faster spool is a good thing.

I think im going to go ahead and make this my official build thread, so mods if its in the wrong section feel free to move it. Thanks

On to more about the car and its current stage.

1993 bone stock with 60k. I am the 2nd owner. First owner(in his 60's) kept it as a weekend car and never drove it in the rain.

Right when I picked it up


First car show, such an attention *****


Car cover put on because attention *****


Posted with the 2001 GSR(sold)


In the garage ready to be tore down


Just some reading materials


Ready for motor to be pulled out


Out


Built 1.6l I purchased from da_chop off this forum. Decided to go bigger and didnt really trust the motor so sold it


Decided to clean up the bay


ghetto paint booth. primed


Painted


close up of paint





6 speed and 3.9 rear being hauled in the Audi like a bause


Drivetrain 6-speed, 3.9 rear from 2000 with 80k


Currently working on cleaning up wire harness and doing wire tuck. HOLY **** what a nightmare
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:25 AM   #82
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Build has so much baller potential!
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Baller status is what I'm shooting for!
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Get a 3.6 ring and pinion before you put it in the car. Also pick up the correct speedo sensor.

Look at solomiata.com to see which sensor you need.

3.6 r&p + decent amount of HP + 8000 RPM = driveable yay
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BTW you obviously know what you're doing when it comes to wrenching- way more skills and um patience than me. I predict winnang.
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I greatly appreciate Fae sharing his knowledge and experience with me. This gives me more confidence in my build and what to expect. Exactly what I was looking to get out of this thread. Isn't that what forums are for? To help people?
^^^Holy Shi*t I think I just broke my arm when I fell out of my chair after reading this.^^^
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^^^Holy Shi*t I think I just broke my arm when I fell out of my chair after reading this.^^^
g g g g GESS WHO TAUGHT FAE HOW TO MAKE AN CONNECTORS ON TIALS?

HINGSTONWMWMS!! <333
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Man love right back at ya Fae!!
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Well OP, you are showing some potential, good for you. Hopefully your build turns out as cool as the planning looks on paper.

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VVT head is identical to 99 head in terms of flow, just has VVT. and playing with VVT can have huge effects on spool. So, personally, if I'm building a head, I don't see why you would invest money into anything but VVT head.

I'll be keeping the 99 intake manifold thouhg, because VICS > VTCS. And possibly an aftermarket IM in the future.
Interesting.
For some silly reason I was under the impression that they were not the same. Someone told me before that the vvt doesn't flow as good up top but makes more lowend. But that could be contributed to the terrible IM I guess. So basically vvt head + bp4w mani with operational vidcs = the best of both worlds?
I plan to go with a honda mani either way, its just nice to know that you're not really "giving up any topend" going vvt.
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Get a 3.6 ring and pinion before you put it in the car. Also pick up the correct speedo sensor.

Look at solomiata.com to see which sensor you need.

3.6 r&p + decent amount of HP + 8000 RPM = driveable yay
I took a look at the ratio calculator that FM has and the difference seems not so huge..at least numbers wise.

Can anyone that has switched from a 3.9 to a 3.6 elaborate on the difference? Is it really that big?

Also how hard would it be to change the ring and pinion?
I read up on solomiata about the speedo sensor an still don't know which sensor I need to get?

Does anyone have the Honda S2000 setup mentioned on solomiata?
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Well OP, you are showing some potential, good for you. Hopefully your build turns out as cool as the planning looks on paper.

Anyone can tear a car apart, putting it back will be the real test.

Interesting.
For some silly reason I was under the impression that they were not the same. Someone told me before that the vvt doesn't flow as good up top but makes more lowend. But that could be contributed to the terrible IM I guess. So basically vvt head + bp4w mani with operational vidcs = the best of both worlds?
I plan to go with a honda mani either way, its just nice to know that you're not really "giving up any topend" going vvt.
Speaking of IM's does anyone on here have the begi IM?
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Dem768 has one but he's finishing his new setup and will dyno soon (hopefully).

The 3.6 vs 3.9 is an improvement, but nothing insane like Fae makes it out to be. If you know how to set backlash/etc it shouldn't be too hard, otherwise people mentioned its like 4-500 to get someone to do it. Meaning you'll be close to 1k into it all said and done. I'm not sure its worth that much money to be honest. Bottom line is: miata gearing sucks for big power: you either end up with way short gears or a way weak driveline. OR you end up paying out the wahoo for baller custom stuff.....
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Can anyone that has switched from a 3.9 to a 3.6 elaborate on the difference? Is it really that big?
From my time on this forum i can say the people who have done the swap speak highly of it. 1st and 2nd gear go by insanely fast at 300+ hp with a 4.1 rear. 3.9 isnt much different.

I say if it can be done without too much trouble / funds then go for it.
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Dem768 has one but he's finishing his new setup and will dyno soon (hopefully).

The 3.6 vs 3.9 is an improvement, but nothing insane like Fae makes it out to be. If you know how to set backlash/etc it shouldn't be too hard, otherwise people mentioned its like 4-500 to get someone to do it. Meaning you'll be close to 1k into it all said and done. I'm not sure its worth that much money to be honest. Bottom line is: miata gearing sucks for big power: you either end up with way short gears or a way weak driveline. OR you end up paying out the wahoo for baller custom stuff.....
Awesome, will be keeping an eye on Dem768.

Maybe later on if I feel the need to switch to 3.6 I'll look into it but for now I think I'll be fine with the 3.9. It's not my daily so I don't mind being in higher higher rpms and getting a few less mpg.
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Rear ratios all depend what you have in mind for the car, if its a daily then sure 3.6 would be good for cruising, nothing wrong with a 4.1 and 300+whp though. Then again I'll be going to a 4.77 next so my opinion may be biased.
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Here is somebody selling a 5 speed with the really strong Quaife gearset already in it if you want to go that way: Miata Stuff - RoadRaceAutoX
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Speaking of IM's does anyone on here have the begi IM?
Which BEGI IM are you talking about? They have put out a good number of different ones over the years.
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Here is somebody selling a 5 speed with the really strong Quaife gearset already in it if you want to go that way: Miata Stuff - RoadRaceAutoX
The price is insane now. If its still around in the beginning of October I'm buying it, even though I'm not sold on the gearing.
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Which BEGI IM are you talking about? They have put out a good number of different ones over the years.
The only one they have on there website for 99-2005 at the moment.
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