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Old 10-20-2009, 10:39 PM   #1
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Default Highest hp 1.6?

Did a search, couldn't turn anything up. Curious who has the highest horse power 1.6 out there. Or the fastest (1/4 mile time) out of a 1.6. Thanks!
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Heard you were going to be shooting for some big numbers...can't wait to see what you come up with
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We'll see... Ive got a radiator and and fans if you want it. Carl told me you might need it.
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HAH! I was watching video's on Matt Farah's (of Garage 419 fame) new site, The Smoking Tire, and knew I had seen that white Miata with red wheels somewhere before. You're famous now.

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We'll see... Ive got a radiator and and fans if you want it. Carl told me you might need it.
I should be good (I've got a custom one in there so it'd be counter productive to go to a stocker..), if you have some motivation bottled up I'll take that, lol. My rad just has like a small pin hole in it....the shop over on west main (Perreaults) said they could do their thing for like $50, I just have to get off my fat *** and take that **** out already....
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Corksport hit 400rwhp with a 1.6L...didnt last very long, it was a stock motor.
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Corksport hit 400rwhp with a 1.6L...didnt last very long, it was a stock motor.
Holy ****!! O_O
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yeah 1.6's are good for 300-400 just like anything else. They are strong the only limits are on your cashpool
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Is there a write up anywhere about the corksport build?
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Stock motor holding 400whp?
This tells me that 300whp can be done and done reliably with the right tuning. I have a hunch that the bent and broken rods are due to the wasted spark setup on our cars, the dsm guys have the same issue at a lil higher power levels at 400whp they bend and break stock rods and at 550-600 or even less on e85 they are throwing eagles all day. I speculate that when you miss fire with wasted spark the fuel/air that is still in the cylinder gets ignited when the plug fires at bdc, the pistons is trying to come up against expanding gasses and the rod is at a terrible ratio with thew piston only half way up in the cylinder. Basically the same effect as detonation but at a point in the stroke where the force is put on the rod while it is at a sharp angle causing it to bend or break much easier then when it is nearly straight up and down. Once my custom manifold is done i will post up some numbers and see if i can change some peoples minds about the integrity of the stock rods. <all speculation, until i have done it or someone else has done it who knows maybe these rods really are only good for 250whp>
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Ummm, funny how that kid thinks his non-lightened Miata with roughly 40-60lbs of extra turbo parts weighs just over 2k lbs. A full interior Miata with hardtop and a full turbo setup will weigh closer to 2340lbs. And that Kurt guy was the idiot who was always bragging up his rear mount setup on a few forums, yet never raced anyone.
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Ummm, funny how that kid thinks his non-lightened Miata with roughly 40-60lbs of extra turbo parts weighs just over 2k lbs. A full interior Miata with hardtop and a full turbo setup will weigh closer to 2340lbs. And that Kurt guy was the idiot who was always bragging up his rear mount setup on a few forums, yet never raced anyone.
That "kid" you're talking about is TS
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Ummm, funny how that kid thinks his non-lightened Miata with roughly 40-60lbs of extra turbo parts weighs just over 2k lbs. A full interior Miata with hardtop and a full turbo setup will weigh closer to 2340lbs. And that Kurt guy was the idiot who was always bragging up his rear mount setup on a few forums, yet never raced anyone.
What makes you think my miata is non-lightend? I dont just say **** for no reason.....and since you've never seen my car....assumptions make and *** of ume?

1slowna great explanation, but i was talking about the 1.6 as a fully built engine, not stock rods. I guess i should have asked a different question.
Built bottom, fully built head with big cams...seems like theres not a lot of info out there.
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Why don't you do it and then we'll have a benchmark for the future
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I suppose you have seen this recent thread?
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t40385/
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What makes you think my miata is non-lightend? I dont just say **** for no reason.....and since you've never seen my car....assumptions make and *** of ume?

1slowna great explanation, but i was talking about the 1.6 as a fully built engine, not stock rods. I guess i should have asked a different question.
Built bottom, fully built head with big cams...seems like theres not a lot of info out there.
I have put together 3 of these and do sometimes have a clue of what I talk about. How about you show me where you got it down to a bit over 2000lbs and prove my assumption incorrect?? Thanks!
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I have put together 3 of these and do sometimes have a clue of what I talk about. How about you show me where you got it down to a bit over 2000lbs and prove my assumption incorrect?? Thanks!
I could show ya a pile of parts on my garage floor that are not in my car any more lol.

Good find Sentic, thank you very much!
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Stock motor holding 400whp?
This tells me that 300whp can be done and done reliably with the right tuning. I have a hunch that the bent and broken rods are due to the wasted spark setup on our cars, the dsm guys have the same issue at a lil higher power levels at 400whp they bend and break stock rods and at 550-600 or even less on e85 they are throwing eagles all day. I speculate that when you miss fire with wasted spark the fuel/air that is still in the cylinder gets ignited when the plug fires at bdc, the pistons is trying to come up against expanding gasses and the rod is at a terrible ratio with thew piston only half way up in the cylinder. Basically the same effect as detonation but at a point in the stroke where the force is put on the rod while it is at a sharp angle causing it to bend or break much easier then when it is nearly straight up and down. Once my custom manifold is done i will post up some numbers and see if i can change some peoples minds about the integrity of the stock rods. <all speculation, until i have done it or someone else has done it who knows maybe these rods really are only good for 250whp>
I have a feeling that something of what you are saying is correct. I dunno if the exmple is or what is causing the issue. I know that hondas run 300+whp on stock blocks often with good tunes because they can run larger turbos and maintain good spool because of ve. Their rods are very similar to ours in size, but they have a completely different ign system. They usually blow sleeves because of psi, not hp.
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A forged 1.6 can hold power just as well as the next engine. Its just less capable in the long run for more reasons than I feel like explaining.
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