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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Go check out thread called "project cheap" by Techsalvager.

If you like his herpey infested tub of diarheal sh*t of a car and setup and want FAIL and AIDS, go ahead and replicate it. It will cost just under 1800, and you will for sure have one of the worst cars on the forum.

Good luck and have fun.
thanks for the link ill check it out. Im pretty sure ive looked at this thread on a different forum before maybe CR and it made me sick believe me I wouldnt ever put together a car like this.
Old Aug 29, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by coltonr
everyone needs to understand i am only going to have the car for another 8 months before i move and am selling the car to a friend who is going to build the motor and put a bigger turbo on it. For now i only want some more power since at my altitude the car is bogging pretty bad.
Why spend any money on it at all? If you spend 1500 bucks on a turbo setup will you're buddy pay you 1500 bucks more than he would if you didn't do anything to the car other than change the oil twice, put gas in it, and wash it a couple times, between then and now?
Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Why spend any money on it at all? If you spend 1500 bucks on a turbo setup will you're buddy pay you 1500 bucks more than he would if you didn't do anything to the car other than change the oil twice, put gas in it, and wash it a couple times, between then and now?
because for those 8 months commuting is not really as fun as im looking for and since im driving an hour every other weekend to albuquerque and there is some areas on that drive that I desperately need some more umph. The biggest reason i cant do a kit is because i am a college student and its easier for me to piece together a kit then save and just buy a complete one. Plus 1800 is a lot if im only looking for SOME power and if my buddy is going to put a bb gtx28r on the car he will swap the turbpo out anyway so why spend the money now.
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Find JRSC, install and drive. Sell JRSC when you sell the car. Problem solved. Let friend deal with the turbo **** later.
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i have dealt with cxracing in the past and their stuff can be squirley but has anyone seen this kit?? for 900

cxracing.com: 89-93 Mazda Miata MX5 T28 Turbo kit Bolt on + Downpipe
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
Find JRSC, install and drive. Sell JRSC when you sell the car. Problem solved. Let friend deal with the turbo **** later.
haha if i can find a jrsc for around 1000 ill pick it up but for the most part i see them for 1200 or more ha
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Ebay kit is trash, those manifolds will break shortly after installation. I highly doubt you'd even get the 8 months out of it.
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Make a FS thread for a used Greddy kit for ****'s sake and stop retarding up this forum

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i have dealt with cxracing in the past and their stuff can be squirley but has anyone seen this kit?? for 900

cxracing.com: 89-93 Mazda Miata MX5 T28 Turbo kit Bolt on + Downpipe
Yes. Buy this and install.
Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Make a FS thread for a used Greddy kit for ****'s sake and stop retarding up this forum



Yes. Buy this and install.
im not asking you to be on this thread if you really have an issue just read someone elses thread its not that difficult to do you just press the back button and go to the other posts
Old Aug 29, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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I really do not think you realize everything that is involved in sourcing a kit. Can it be done for cheap? Yes but it would probably take you 8 months to find deals on decent parts so that it is not breaking left and right. There are lots of little things that need to be done. Do you even have a way to tune the fueling? You cannot run a turbo on the stock ECU unless you want to blow the motor up. You will also need to run lines for the turbo. You sound as if you have never turbo'd a car before which is fine, but you have no idea what is involved in the process. It will not be worth the $$ and headaches for 8 months of driving.
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I really do not think you realize everything that is involved in sourcing a kit. Can it be done for cheap? Yes but it would probably take you 8 months to find deals on decent parts so that it is not breaking left and right. There are lots of little things that need to be done. Do you even have a way to tune the fueling? You cannot run a turbo on the stock ECU unless you want to blow the motor up. You will also need to run lines for the turbo. You sound as if you have never turbo'd a car before which is fine, but you have no idea what is involved in the process. It will not be worth the $$ and headaches for 8 months of driving.
i already had my speed6 and swapped in a gt3076r although the car comes factory turbo i am aware of what is needed. i can run a fuel pressure regulator with the car instead of a ms or hydra since i only am running small amounts of boost.
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You have NO idea. And I'm completely serious when I say this, not just flaming.
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https://www.miataturbo.net/wtb-7/wtb...anifold-68089/
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I have to agree this is a bad idea. If i was going dirt cheap i'd check out those t3 cast ebay manifolds for the 1.6, a china t3 of some kind (brain has/had one for a while and it was good, iirc), etc. At your altitude with a rising rate fpr and some static timing retard I don't see why you couldn't run 5-6psi (150whp) or so.

Be careful though, my stock greddy kit was running dangerously lean due to a failing fuel pump and I had no idea until i put a wbo2 on it.

Oh and if you were keeping the car I would not recommend you go band-aids at all. Megasquirt is where its at.
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Originally Posted by coltonr
everyone needs to understand i am only going to have the car for another 8 months before i move and am selling the car to a friend who is going to build the motor and put a bigger turbo on it. For now i only want some more power since at my altitude the car is bogging pretty bad.
ask your friend to buy the turbo stuff he will put on the car after he buys it. Tell him you will "break in" all the turbo parts

if he is a good friend i dont see a problem..
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Originally Posted by Fireindc
I have to agree this is a bad idea. If i was going dirt cheap i'd check out those t3 cast ebay manifolds for the 1.6, a china t3 of some kind (brain has/had one for a while and it was good, iirc), etc. At your altitude with a rising rate fpr and some static timing retard I don't see why you couldn't run 5-6psi (150whp) or so.

Be careful though, my stock greddy kit was running dangerously lean due to a failing fuel pump and I had no idea until i put a wbo2 on it.

Oh and if you were keeping the car I would not recommend you go band-aids at all. Megasquirt is where its at.
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This sounds like the best option for you so far. Cast ebay manifold and matching flange turbo.

EDIT: Or if you can snag that setup in the classifieds if it looks decent.

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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Clos561
ask your friend to buy the turbo stuff he will put on the car after he buys it. Tell him you will "break in" all the turbo parts

if he is a good friend i dont see a problem..
Haha that would be perfect


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This sounds like the best option for you so far. Cast ebay manifold and matching flange turbo.

EDIT: Or if you can snag that setup in the classifieds if it looks decent.
Which.kit are you talking about??
This one?: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...onetics-67793/
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Shangai-s kit turbo held up pretty good. Lol (for those who know..)
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I agree that it's a silly idea to start chopping up manifolds etc, but I'd like to know who of the people that say the MSM turbo is no good actually own one?
I have one on a '00 engine with 6sp and 3.6 and I think it suits the engine perfectly well.
Agreed, it's a small turbo and goes out of breath over 10-12psi, but I like it.
Oh, of course my car only weighs 1350lbs wet
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You just answered your own question.



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