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aidandj 05-20-2015 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1233174)
I ended up getting the PowerPro 205s.

The Eastwood is a more simple machine, but it has the advantage of working on 110v (if you're doing light duty stuff) or 220v. The Everlast is 220v only, but has a bunch more features, like adjustable cleaning for AC, pulse, upslope and downslope control. The Everlast also has a 5 year warranty (why I chose it) vs 3 years for the Eastwood (also Miller and Lincoln are 3 years).

The PowerPro205 is more expensive, but I plan on getting a compressor at some point and I've heard good things about the plasma cutter part.

I don't need 110. I can use a cheap mig if I need that.

My budget is sub 1000. Because I still need gas and all that stuff.

750 would be ideal, hence the eastwood I linked.

thenuge26 05-20-2015 02:39 PM

Looks like Roda likes his AHP, it's out of stock on Amazon though.

shuiend 05-20-2015 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1233176)

I have a cheap eBay plasma cutter/tig welder that was around that price. It runs off 110v, at least that is what the stock plug is. I will check the exact model tonight. I should hook it up one of these days and give the TIG part a try to see how it compares to my Lincoln 175.

Honestly if you are not in a huge hurry then watch CL for a good tig welder. I bought my Lincoln 175 for about $900. It was used 4 times for stick welding only, came with an argon bottle, mask, welding stuff, and a cart.

Seefo 05-21-2015 04:12 PM

subbing here, looking at getting a tig/plasma combo or whatever.

I have never welded before...Anyone have a good source on beginner Tigging? also if I buy something like everlast 205s, what am I missing to start welding? Argon tank? what other consumables are required?

Erat 05-21-2015 04:15 PM

<p>

Originally Posted by Seefo (Post 1233602)
subbing here, looking at getting a tig/plasma combo or whatever.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have never welded before...Anyone have a good source on beginner Tigging? also if I buy something like everlast 205s, what am I missing to start welding? Argon tank? what other consumables are required?

</p><p>Tungsten and filler.</p>

thenuge26 05-21-2015 04:26 PM

<p>Yep, I also bought a kit from amazon that had different gas lenses and cups (though the Everlast comes with a gas lense and 2 cups). &nbsp;I also needed to go to Menards and buy a dryer cable and a 220 outlet to make an adapter to plug it in to my dryer outlet. &nbsp;</p>

m2cupcar 05-21-2015 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1233208)
I have a cheap eBay plasma cutter/tig welder...I should hook it up one of these days and give the TIG part a try to see how it compares to my Lincoln 175.

Please do- and post up the results compared to a "real" TIG machine. I searched youtube/google for some comments on TIG'ing with these and there's nothing but reference to cutting with them.

Seefo 05-27-2015 01:53 PM

So anyone have some insight into the AC tig welding? I know its mostly for aluminum, but looking at the price difference between the 165 and 205s, is the adjustability worth it? I do plan to do some aluminum welding and would rather not close (or severely limit) that option.

aidandj 05-27-2015 01:55 PM

<p>AC is necessary for aluminum welding from what I know.</p>

Seefo 05-27-2015 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1235327)
<p>AC is necessary for TIG welding from what I know.</p>

Not really, AC is really only used for Aluminum. It maybe the close association of TIG/Aluminum that makes it seem like that. Everlast offers DC only tig welders btw.

aidandj 05-27-2015 02:03 PM

<p>Damn it thats what I meant. AC is required to TIG aluminum.</p>

Leafy 05-27-2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Seefo (Post 1235332)
Not really, AC is really only used for Aluminum. It maybe the close association of TIG/Aluminum that makes it seem like that. Everlast offers DC only tig welders btw.

lincoln also has DC only tigs. I dont see the point for a hobby scale tig to not have AC. It would totally make sense for an industrial scale machine that'll go in a shop that only does steel and/or stainless.

Roda 05-27-2015 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1235427)
I dont see the point for a hobby scale tig to not have AC. It would totally make sense for an industrial scale machine that'll go in a shop that only does steel and/or stainless.

This.

For a motorsport hobbyist it really doesn't make sense not to have AC.

For an update, my AHP Tig is still going strong. I've used it for a few projects here and there, mostly steel. Still practicing on AL when I have time and materials, still need more practice, LOL.

I would avoid combination units. All my research pointed to combo units not being as good as standalone welders or plasmas.

aidandj 05-27-2015 09:15 PM

<p>Yeah I think I'm pretty set on this eastwood:&nbsphttp://;http://www.eastwood.com/tig-...dc-welder.html</p>

Roda 05-27-2015 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1235504)
<p>Yeah I think I'm pretty set on this eastwood:&nbsphttp://;http://www.eastwood.com/tig-...dc-welder.html</p>

$50 more gets you adjustable AC frequency and pulse in the AHP:

2manyhobyz 05-27-2015 09:54 PM

^ This. I just ordered one. It will take a few weeks to get here tho. After using an Eastwood for 4 years I reached its limits pretty quick. I'm looking forward to the adjust ability that this unit has.

aidandj 05-27-2015 10:07 PM

<p>Damn, now thats my new favorite.</p>

yank 05-27-2015 11:12 PM

My 211 autoset mig has served me well until i got in the big kid game. If i loose my shop access i'll be dropping coin on a used Miller Dynasty 200 more than likely. I've used one in the past and it does very well. pricey though..

Seefo 06-16-2015 10:04 AM

Bought a 200DX or DV as its called now.

Looking at consumables. So I understand larger tungsten means more amps before it breaks, but larger weld pool?

From reading online I should be using 2% thoriated for steel and 2% lanthinated for AC welding and Aluminum.

Is it common to have multiple sizes for both? also a few people said they just have the lanthinated type and use it for everything (and vice versa with the thoriated).

Roda 06-16-2015 10:20 AM

I'm using Thoriated and Lanthanated as noted above, in 1/16, 3/32, and 1/8, depending on the thickness of the material.

You'll also want a gas lens kit, probably stubby, for better maneuverability...

Stubby Gas Lens Kit , Metal Welding, Welder Supplies, Accessories for Welding | USAWeld.com


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