searching doesn't work well
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searching doesn't work well
I've noticed an issue with the way the searching is setup.
If I search (subject titles only) for something like "oxygen sensor", I get 7 pages of results with only the word "sensor" in the title. I would rather NO results show up then get a bunch of threads discussing other types of sensors.
Is there a way to do boolean searches? Like "oxygen AND sensor"? Or is this an option in the admin console?
I rarely use the miataturbo forums b/c of this issue... and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The searching on miata.net works much better. You're both using VB, so I'm sure it can be fixed.
If I search (subject titles only) for something like "oxygen sensor", I get 7 pages of results with only the word "sensor" in the title. I would rather NO results show up then get a bunch of threads discussing other types of sensors.
Is there a way to do boolean searches? Like "oxygen AND sensor"? Or is this an option in the admin console?
I rarely use the miataturbo forums b/c of this issue... and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The searching on miata.net works much better. You're both using VB, so I'm sure it can be fixed.
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I've noticed an issue with the way the searching is setup.
If I search (subject titles only) for something like "oxygen sensor", I get 7 pages of results with only the word "sensor" in the title. I would rather NO results show up then get a bunch of threads discussing other types of sensors.
Is there a way to do boolean searches? Like "oxygen AND sensor"? Or is this an option in the admin console?
I rarely use the miataturbo forums b/c of this issue... and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The searching on miata.net works much better. You're both using VB, so I'm sure it can be fixed.
If I search (subject titles only) for something like "oxygen sensor", I get 7 pages of results with only the word "sensor" in the title. I would rather NO results show up then get a bunch of threads discussing other types of sensors.
Is there a way to do boolean searches? Like "oxygen AND sensor"? Or is this an option in the admin console?
I rarely use the miataturbo forums b/c of this issue... and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The searching on miata.net works much better. You're both using VB, so I'm sure it can be fixed.
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#7
Here's some help for those having search trouble.
In Advanced Search. Under search options the default is sort by last posting date. Change to sort by RELEVANCY.
If that doesn't get what you want you can also change from search entire post to search titles under the Keyword section.
Problem solved.
If you want you can whine to the mods and ask them to reset the search default to relevancy instead of most recent. Maybe start a poll about what members would prefer if you want some backup for your position. Do any of the above at your own peril! he he he ...
In Advanced Search. Under search options the default is sort by last posting date. Change to sort by RELEVANCY.
If that doesn't get what you want you can also change from search entire post to search titles under the Keyword section.
Problem solved.
If you want you can whine to the mods and ask them to reset the search default to relevancy instead of most recent. Maybe start a poll about what members would prefer if you want some backup for your position. Do any of the above at your own peril! he he he ...
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That actually doesn't help much. If you use relevancy to search for "oxygen sensor", only 4 of the top 25 hits have anything to do with O2 sensors.
Proper boolean searching is what this forum needs. Right now it treats the search like "oxygen OR sensor" but we need "oxygen AND sensor".
I admin a VB 3.6 forum, and the default behavior for searching is a boolean AND. If I searched for "oxygen sensor" on my forum, it would ONLY return results with "oxygen sensor" in them. I don't know whether VB 3.7 behaves differently by default, or if one of the admins just screwed up the preferences... but it's not configured ideally.
It surprises me that no admin or moderator has chimed in!
Proper boolean searching is what this forum needs. Right now it treats the search like "oxygen OR sensor" but we need "oxygen AND sensor".
I admin a VB 3.6 forum, and the default behavior for searching is a boolean AND. If I searched for "oxygen sensor" on my forum, it would ONLY return results with "oxygen sensor" in them. I don't know whether VB 3.7 behaves differently by default, or if one of the admins just screwed up the preferences... but it's not configured ideally.
It surprises me that no admin or moderator has chimed in!
#15
I've noticed the same thing on a few other forums as well. You used to be able to search some of them using boolean, but it seems like a thing of the past. I even tried putting two words in quotes, but of course that doesn't work either. Thankfully boolean and quotes still work on Google. If that ever changes, it will really suck. So now I try and think of the least common word I can to get fewer (more relevant) results.
A recent example of mine was a search for "T25 clocking". Returns 17 pages of ebay for sale adds with T25 in the subject. Of course filtering by forum helps, but still!
A recent example of mine was a search for "T25 clocking". Returns 17 pages of ebay for sale adds with T25 in the subject. Of course filtering by forum helps, but still!
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It's not just the lack of boolean searching... miataturbo.net's settings are screwed up. The default installation of VB uses a boolean AND for search queries. Mt.net uses a boolean OR. Either that or something's changed between VB 3.6 and 3.7.
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