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Old 08-26-2008, 04:18 PM   #21
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Come on Sam. You know you want it! Buy it! Buy it! We can then follow your lead.

I assume this thing will idle 550's fine???
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:23 PM   #22
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sam runs a standalone MS...he should know all this
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:33 PM   #23
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Crap, I didn't even realize I was responding to Sam. The avatar didn't look familiar. (Yes, I realize now that I look at it that it's the dome from an E-3)


So yeah. While I would find it hard to justify spending an extra $900 over MS for that, I don't think table size is a problem. Why the heck you even bringing this stuff up?
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:59 PM   #24
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Joe, I've got some quirks about exactly what I'm going to install in my NB.
It has to be PnP out of the box. I don't mind learning the tuning software, but it has to start the very first time I turn the key and start auto-tuning as I back out of the driveway (or damn close to that).

I don't have the desire or electrical skills to do any real "work" on development of new stuff. You and Abe and some of the guys get off on making MS "do" all this cool **** and I'm in awe... it's just beyond me.

Having Chad build me an MS1 parallel and doing the minor work to get that running is the most amount of "work" that I'll be doing. My choices were either MS or Hydra at a huge cost difference. Xede just doesn't have the features I want. Now there's something EXACTLY in between... the relatively low price with all the functionality. If you've already got an LC1, it's half the price of Hydra for (on paper) what appears to be almost identical specs. The company and the unit itself needs some development time, but everything seems to be there. I wish I was ready for one now... and I'm flabbergasted I hadn't heard about this thing until 2 days ago.

For those wondering about my cryptic "forthcoming NB build"... it looks kinda like this in my dreamz:
White '99 Base model w/Sport package
Swapping over: Rollbar, Brakelines, Voodoo ****, Uber-Seat, Filter, LC1, 550's... a few other minor things.
Already Have: 3.636gears.
Ready to purchase: 15x86UL's 225/45 Rs2's
Build: GT2860+S4Manifold (ceramic coated), 3"turboback, CXRacingIC 2.5"piping, Godspeed/Mishimoto, 2x12"Fans on Plexi, TT FuelRail, odds and ends.

All this will be on the stock motor... I don't see why 300whp isn't just a matter of turning up the boost providing the heat is manageable. I'll be looking at 8psi on wastegate and achieving 200whp for daily... plus around 12psi in the 260-270whp range on EBC. I'll have my trusty MBC mounted to give me the 300whp at the cost of 30seconds under the hood... unless there's a dual-map EBC option with a dash-switch.

When the motor lets loose, I'll rebuild it with some head-work, and throw in some mild internals and run 300whp daily. There will be an epic thread when I start this thing.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:05 PM   #25
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I'll have my trusty MBC mounted to give me the 300whp at the cost of 30seconds under the hood... unless there's a dual-map EBC option with a dash-switch.

There is, according to the manual. Damn, I'm talking MYSELF into this thing.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:42 PM   #26
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a cheap solenoid valve and switch can turn any boost control into a two stage. wastegate pressure is only a shunt connection away!
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:07 PM   #27
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There's more than a few guys in the UK running the Adaptronic, all I have heard is good reports.

http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.p...aptronic&st=20
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:18 PM   #28
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Sam,


You could also try this site for more info. They use this ECU on their race MX-5 and have fitted them to a number of NBs.

http://www.mx5mania.com.au/product1382.htm

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This thing is the ****. I'm sold. I'm sure there will be a lot more development and testing done over the next few months so it'll be ready for me when I go NB. It would be awesome for somebody here who's smart about such things get ahold of one and get crackin'.
As long as it comes with a MAP that will run naturally aspirated, I'll have the entire thing wired tight when it comes time for boost and be able to road-tune it myself before getting it on a dyno and doing some real work.

Is there anybody out there who's feelin' me on this? To me, it looks like ALL the funtionality of Hydra at half the price. Anybody see something I'm not?
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This thing is the ****. I'm sold. I'm sure there will be a lot more development and testing done over the next few months so it'll be ready for me when I go NB. It would be awesome for somebody here who's smart about such things get ahold of one and get crackin'.
As long as it comes with a MAP that will run naturally aspirated, I'll have the entire thing wired tight when it comes time for boost and be able to road-tune it myself before getting it on a dyno and doing some real work.

Is there anybody out there who's feelin' me on this? To me, it looks like ALL the funtionality of Hydra at half the price. Anybody see something I'm not?
If I had an NB and money, id buy it too. Go for it.
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This thing is the ****. I'm sold. I'm sure there will be a lot more development and testing done over the next few months so it'll be ready for me when I go NB. It would be awesome for somebody here who's smart about such things get ahold of one and get crackin'.
As long as it comes with a MAP that will run naturally aspirated, I'll have the entire thing wired tight when it comes time for boost and be able to road-tune it myself before getting it on a dyno and doing some real work.

Is there anybody out there who's feelin' me on this? To me, it looks like ALL the funtionality of Hydra at half the price. Anybody see something I'm not?
Been following every one of your posts ever since you decided you wanted to get an nb and are now up against the same decision I am buddy

this sounds great from what I gather (from this thread and links)....1100+ is still a bit much for my jew self, but im sure when I am ready to go and must make the decision this will be a heavy contender. The only thing that might sway me is if someone finally steps up and starts building ms parallel again
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Is there anybody out there who's feelin' me on this? To me, it looks like ALL the funtionality of Hydra at half the price. Anybody see something I'm not?
Your math is funny.

Hydra $2040
EBC solenoid $51.95
Total $2091.95

Adaptronic $1160
MAP $88
WBO2 $200
Total $1448

That's a ~$650 difference, not half.

I'd honestly go with the Hydra and wish I had done so when I bought my Link. Base maps and support from FM are totally worth the extra $$$ in my opinion.
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btw, the 2.6 software and platform looks to be much better than the earlier software. lots of features added too.
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I've already got the LC1... so that makes it $850 to me. Sorry I didn't get a calculator out. A lot of the Hydra "goodies" I'll never use. Does it really matter that it will do 8injectors? In any case, if the Aussies/Brits who are using this thing can generate a good base of knowledge and have identified any major problems... I can't see passing this up short of an unforeseen deal landing in my lap. The VVT control even gets me thinking I might look at some cheap '01's... for the torture.

The savings will let me get all the other goodies I was thinking I'd have to shed due to Hydras cost... like an oil-cooler, EGT gauge, and a set of track tires/wheels.


Of course, all this wouldn't mean **** if DIY would get crackin' on an MS PnP for 99+ cars.
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Your math is funny.

Hydra $2040
EBC solenoid $51.95
Total $2091.95

Adaptronic $1160
MAP $88
WBO2 $200
Total $1448

That's a ~$650 difference, not half.

I'd honestly go with the Hydra and wish I had done so when I bought my Link. Base maps and support from FM are totally worth the extra $$$ in my opinion.

It is quite possible I'm biased here towards my own product I can say that with all the boosting going on in Australia and Europe I would have no problems supplying base maps to most setups. I have excellent relations with the different tuning shops abroad that are more than willing to help out. On top of that while it’s true I'm not a multi-million dollar company with a staff to answer phones I am a multi-degreed guy who personally designs, manufactures or tests every product that leaves the doors of my house and I personally answer the "phone." So if there ever was a guy who you wanted to talk to about one of the products I sell it'd be me, not a technical service representative. I also have the name, number, and email address of the guy who DESIGNED the Adaptronic on hand, and we have an excellent working relationship. There is no way someone could ask me a question about this product and I not know what the answer is within 24 hours.
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Does it really matter that it will do 8injectors?
in reality it's more that it has 4 injector drivers and can do either 8 cylinders batch or 4 sequential. I choose the latter.
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Pulling the plug next week guys

hopefully everything goes as well installation and tuning wise as described by Travis and the forums I've been lurking on lately trying to pick up more info on this thing.
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Pulling the plug next week guys

hopefully everything goes as well installation and tuning wise as described by Travis and the forums I've been lurking on lately trying to pick up more info on this thing.
sweett cant wait to hear about it!
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