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Old 10-14-2010, 11:25 PM   #41
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Ethanol blended gas is horseshit and I wish I had the choice to NOT put that **** in my gas tank. You can think the asshats with shitty cars and the truck/useless SUV fagamuffins for helping push that 10% ethanol garbage.
This stuff is responsible for more than a few broken ringlands on turbo subies...
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:41 AM   #42
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Point I'm making is gas miliage(efficiency) is directly related to power/engine output. The less efficient the gas the less power we make and the slower we go and possibily the more likely we are to blow engines. ALL BAD

do some math...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_s...el_consumption
For your next thread, explain how an internal combustion engine works. We're all dying to know.
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Point I'm making is gas miliage(efficiency) is directly related to power/engine output. The less efficient the gas the less power we make and the slower we go and possibily the more likely we are to blow engines. ALL BAD
Less mileage, yes. Les efficient fuel, yes. The slower we go? No. The more likely we are to blow up engines? ROFL.

Do some research beyond Wikipedia before badmouthing one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband.
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Bad news guys, the air we breathe is only 21% oxygen.
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Bad news guys, the air we breathe is only 21% oxygen.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
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I wonder how many gallons of diesel it takes to farm and deliver that gallon of e85.
Oh it's all biodiesel.
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Less mileage, yes. Les efficient fuel, yes. The slower we go? No. The more likely we are to blow up engines? ROFL.

Do some research beyond Wikipedia before badmouthing one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband.
If some guy has a tune for 93 or even a 100 then one day someone mentions how e85 is "one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband" then loads up with it and drives away there is a great chance their engine will end up with some type of damage given they do not get a new tune.

Another thing this **** will do....

Quote from a turbo civc I know:

"I killed a set of brand new RC's, new aeromotive fuel pump, new aeromotive regulator, then the motor had more issues. After a bad leak down test I pulled the head the machine shop said there was white powder (Aluminum Oxide) was logded in the valve guides. You could clearly see the white powder on the intake valves and port. So I am about 2 grand into fixing E85 damage. The butt kicker is I put the car back on Cam2 110 and it made the exact same power as I did before.

Maybe I got some bad batches from Citgo, I don't know but the damage and possibly exploding decent $ motor wasn't worth the possible extra hp. After my experience a few locals have been dropping injectors ect. They all switch back to VP or Sunoco race fuels and make almost the same power."
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If some guy has a tune for 93 or even a 100 then one day someone mentions how e85 is "one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband" then loads up with it and drives away there is a great chance their engine will end up with some type of damage given they do not get a new tune.

Another thing this **** will do....

Quote from a turbo civc I know:

"I killed a set of brand new RC's, new aeromotive fuel pump, new aeromotive regulator, then the motor had more issues. After a bad leak down test I pulled the head the machine shop said there was white powder (Aluminum Oxide) was logded in the valve guides. You could clearly see the white powder on the intake valves and port. So I am about 2 grand into fixing E85 damage. The butt kicker is I put the car back on Cam2 110 and it made the exact same power as I did before.

Maybe I got some bad batches from Citgo, I don't know but the damage and possibly exploding decent $ motor wasn't worth the possible extra hp. After my experience a few locals have been dropping injectors ect. They all switch back to VP or Sunoco race fuels and make almost the same power."
quoted for epic lolz for those who know why.

Call I can say...is that those examples you have given were operator error and they deserve such results and not to be blamed on E85.
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Do some research beyond Wikipedia before badmouthing one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband.
I'm not badmouthing e85, I've seen what it can do. I'm badmouthing forced-by-gun 10-15% blends at the pump on the street in the interest of the special interest group at my expensive.
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If some guy has a tune for 93 or even a 100 then one day someone mentions how e85 is "one of the best things to come to the forced induction community since the affordable on-board wideband" then loads up with it and drives away there is a great chance their engine will end up with some type of damage given they do not get a new tune.
This just in: All you need to do to run E85 is change your tune.
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It's a false demand paid for by government subsides. That's why corn syrup is in all your foods.
That's so untrue- we need something to feed all these cows!
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That's so untrue- we need something to feed all these cows!
I'm pretty sure you're joking, so I'll not go on a rant here about what a foolish thing it is to feed cows corn.
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That's so untrue- we need something to feed all these cows!
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I'm pretty sure you're joking, so I'll not go on a rant here about what a foolish thing it is to feed cows corn.
**** you, that's MY rant!
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e anything=the devil give me back my ******* mtbe or lead anyday.
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We use corn syrup everywhere because the import tax is so high on foreign sugar to protect the prices of domestic sugar. Thank the Big Sugar lobby. For those who don't know, the Big Sugar lobby is real and controls much of the land use policy in South Florida where huge amounts of it are grown. They force the price of real sugar up causing an increase in the use of corn syrup as a less expensive alternative.

If we didn't have a huge import tax on cheap foreign sugar we could make our ethanol for much, much less.
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This just in: All you need to do to run E85 is change your tune.



....and upgrade your fuel system. My buddy Dan was running 1600cc injectors on his WRX. Made great power....but idles worse than his 1000cc injectors.

Also, he was filling up w/ E85 a lot sooner per tank than with 93 octane. Yes, you can make considerably more power with a good tune and supporting hardware (fuel system), but is it worth it? Not for everyone. Also, trying to locate an E85 pump when you're got 60% less travel distance per tank than before sucks. You really need to think about where/when you'll fill up.

However, it also is a bit cheaper than buy something like 108-115 octane race fuel.
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....and upgrade your fuel system.
Yeah, I was being sarcastic as a retort to the OP's "but my friend totally blew up his Honda and it's all E85's fault" post.
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