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hustler 07-30-2009 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 436810)
Your shit is in the mail to me, pozatron. I'll mail it back to Tim on Monday.

This housing has spent more time in the back of a shipping truck than it has spent in both Tim's and my possession combined. It's like the village whore. :giggle:

You're a village whore and its a shame you haven't already shipped it so I could keep the money and blow fish-scale off a hooker's ass with it. With any luck I'll do that before I send it so at the least you can touch something that's been near a woman's sex organs.

its like the gnome that gets shipped everywhere.

TurboTim 07-30-2009 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 436809)
what? the garrett .64 and .86 housings are almost indistinguishable on the outside. why would the tial be much different?

I guess I'm thinking of something different, or talking out my ass again. It's been a while.

Ahh. You can sorta see in this pic, the only one I have uploaded. The left turbo is a 56 trim 2871, .86A/R, middle and right the standard 2560 & 2554.
http://www.inoneear.com/outtheother/...202871%202.JPG

Sav doesn't get his stuff until tomorrow.

hustler 07-30-2009 05:55 PM

well, the tial housings are much smaller than standard turbine housings so there may be a distinguishable difference.

ARTech 07-30-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 436803)
It is not an ebay manifold with a brace. That guy was sent a manifold to see if he could make them for BEGi and ended up just copying it badly and sending the manifold back.

it was confimed by corky. begi may have sent the manifold to china to have reproduced but what they send back is the same thing sold on ebay

I'm not talking about this new manifold. This one seems solid

TurboTim 07-30-2009 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 436828)
well, the tial housings are much smaller than standard turbine housings so there may be a distinguishable difference.

I don't know about that. Sav's turbine is a lot closer to "hit block" than any of the standard turbine setups I've done.

ARTech 07-30-2009 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 436808)
Reading comprehension is a good skill to have. I never said anything about the manifold material or construction, and I won't because I've never seen one. What I have seen is a difference in collector style between the v-band S4 and the standard S4.

Take your own advice. "The standard S4 has a really nice collector," your words. It's not nice.

Pitlab77 07-30-2009 06:06 PM

Interesting. Miatas finally catching up to the rest of the world

rharris19 07-30-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436834)
Take your own advice. "The standard S4 has a really nice collector," your words. It's not nice.

He is talking about the way that they all come together. The angles that the tubes join and how they flow with each other. Not so much about the welding or looks.

BTW, the S4 manifold is actually a very nice manifold. I have one and love the hell out of it. I just want V-bands for the track.

ZX-Tex 07-30-2009 06:16 PM

So it is interesting BEGI did not use the separate runner/collector EWG setup they were working on for the S4. I thought they had tried a simple branch tube at the collector (like this one) and were having boost creep problems. This manifold though is a bit different than the S4 so maybe that takes care of it.

At any rate, looks great, should work great too.

samnavy 07-30-2009 07:05 PM

That shit is awesome. Did you get the 3" DP option... and I need to know the total cost including the wastegate please.

ARTech 07-30-2009 07:12 PM

Forget my last post, I was picturing this:

http://is.rely.net/1-2511-23397-l-oZ...P883KnkPdA.jpg

I don't know what the inside of the regular s4 looks like, but judging by the outside it does look like it would flow well.

cueball1 07-30-2009 07:18 PM

The S4 is a braced ebay mani? What the hell are you talking about?

I'll 3rd Savington and Rharris's statements. The collector on my absolutely-not-ebay-or-made-in-china S4 mani is very well done.

hustler 07-30-2009 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Pitlab77 (Post 436837)
Interesting. Miatas finally catching up to the rest of the world

overnight thanks to one guy pioneering something, and roughly 3-serious track rats pushing him.

Cococarbine3 07-30-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 436840)
So it is interesting BEGI did not use the separate runner/collector EWG setup they were working on for the S4. I thought they had tried a simple branch tube at the collector (like this one) and were having boost creep problems. This manifold though is a bit different than the S4 so maybe that takes care of it.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. This design (picture) seems like it would work better, considering there isn't a 90 degree bend for the exhaust to travel through to the wastegate. Maybe testing didn't go too well...

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rharris19 07-30-2009 08:56 PM

I am far from a track rat and won't even pretend that I am not a novice. I'm just getting this car set-up so I have one less thing to worry about.

Pitlab77 07-30-2009 11:27 PM

so I take it corky personally made this manifold?

I've been following the Vband/bolts threads on here and on the miata.net

MazDilla 07-30-2009 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Cococarbine3 (Post 436903)
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. This design (picture) seems like it would work better, considering there isn't a 90 degree bend for the exhaust to travel through to the wastegate. Maybe testing didn't go too well...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...2245776JPG.jpg


Testing took a brief (lol) hiatus... testing will begin again very soon.

ARTech 07-30-2009 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 436855)
The S4 is a braced ebay mani? What the hell are you talking about?

I'll 3rd Savington and Rharris's statements. The collector on my absolutely-not-ebay-or-made-in-china S4 mani is very well done.

One of these is from an ebay auction.

http://www.bellengineering.net/image...id_size/26.JPG

vs

http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...A139M18L-B.jpg


Check your egr, does the weld look different from the rest of the manifold? it was added later.

the wg setup cant be adapted to the original s4 manifold because 16/18ga material cannot hold the wieght of a wastegate. It breaks right off.

Savington 07-30-2009 11:50 PM

Why does Dallas have a disproportionately high number of turbo Miata owners who are mouth-breathing retards?

hustler 07-31-2009 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 436969)
Why does Dallas have a disproportionately high number of turbo Miata owners who are mouth-breathing retards?

:stopspaymentonpaypal:

oh, and our dad's own dealerships.


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