bleeding brakes with ABS - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-24-2009, 04:02 PM   #21
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,892
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

8. profit.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 04:15 PM   #22
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
you can probably trigger the abs motor by providing 12v to the red/yellow wire off the ABS controller box. let it cycle like forevez.
Are you sure of are you paying EUR 900 per fried ABS unit?
Having that said, compressor + vacuum bleeder is actually pretty good result. Just bedded the pads in - for how well I can on the street - and pedal feel is actually not bad for a first drive.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 04:31 PM   #23
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savington View Post
1. jack up car
2. remove wheels and tires
3. remove ABS from car, you big vagina
4. install normal non-***** brakes
5. bleed as normal
6. install wheels, lower car
7. ball hard
ABS is what keeps me alive in the rain, or so I think. Where is the ABS fuse actually?
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 04:35 PM   #24
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,892
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

just pull the two relays next to the unit.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 04:56 PM   #25
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

-edit below-

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savington View Post
1. jack up car
2. remove wheels and tires
3. remove ABS from car, you big vagina
4. install normal non-***** brakes
5. bleed as normal
6. install wheels, lower car
7. ball hard
8. die (when you rear end someone driving 5mph in stop and go traffic in the rain)
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:01 PM   #26
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 721
Total Cats: 0
Default

die in a 5mph accident? hmm.....that takes mad skillz
budget racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:03 PM   #27
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 758
Total Cats: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by faeflora View Post
-edit below-
It's called adapting to your conditions. Leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front of you when driving in inclement weather. Don't let yourself get distracted when driving a 2100# missle.
boileralum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:08 PM   #28
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,367
Total Cats: 1,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
ABS is what keeps me alive in the rain, or so I think.
Might I suggest you learn to suck less
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:10 PM   #29
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boileralum View Post
It's called adapting to your conditions. Leave a bigger gap between you and the car in front of you when driving in inclement weather. Don't let yourself get distracted when driving a 2100# missle.
So you're saying I should leave a larger gap to compensate for a lack of ABS? So I can skillfully extract maximum braking power with my oh so sensitive "racer's" right foot whilst I thank miataturbo.net for inspiring me to have removed my safety net and granting me the opportunity to **** myself?
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:17 PM   #30
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,892
Total Cats: 1,792
Default

btw, ABS doesn't help when you're sliding backwards on ice... in fact i don't remember it working at all once it spun.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 05:35 PM   #31
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Delicious and Moist.
Posts: 26,326
Total Cats: 1,925
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by faeflora View Post
This is bullshit. Does anyone have the factory procedure for bleeding Miata ABS brakes?
In the '99 FSM, section 04-13 (ABS) covers only electromechanical troubleshooting, and does not give a special procedure for bleeding the system. The only air-bleeding procedure given in all of chapter 04 is under section 04-11, "Conventional Brake System":




Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
Where is the ABS fuse actually?
The motor is powered by the "ABS" fuse in the main relay / fuse box under the hood, near the pax shock tower. The control unit, from what I can gather of the schematic, is powered by the windshield wiper fuse.
Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 06:20 PM   #32
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Thanks Joe. Im keeping ABS for now as Ive just spoken to a 94+ABS+Wilwood owner that has rock solid brakes, and not so before. Repeated bleeding is the icing on the cake apparently.

Joe: do you also have the manual page for pedal height adjustment?
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 07:02 PM   #33
Junior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Petaluma, California
Posts: 166
Total Cats: -3
Default

Like Sav said, ABS is for driver's that SUCK *** ... ah I'm just jealous

In hindsight I wish I would have looked around for an ABS equipped NA to build as my racecar, oh well - need to concentrate on sucking less *** I spoze...

I flatspotted one of my 225 Avon Tech RA's last year @ Bwillow braking into Star Mazda. I made a late pass and didn't realize my RR was locked until I noticed a smokescreen in my mirrors, DOH, that tire was DONE, squared as ***.
minime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:53 PM   #34
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Delicious and Moist.
Posts: 26,326
Total Cats: 1,925
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
Joe: do you also have the manual page for pedal height adjustment?
From the '92 FSM:

Joe Perez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 10:46 PM   #35
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 758
Total Cats: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by faeflora View Post
So you're saying I should leave a larger gap to compensate for a lack of ABS? So I can skillfully extract maximum braking power with my oh so sensitive "racer's" right foot whilst I thank miataturbo.net for inspiring me to have removed my safety net and granting me the opportunity to **** myself?
I'm saying you should leave a larger gap when it is raining and the pavement is slick enough that you think you could skid into the car in front of you. It's pretty common sense, or so I would have thought.
boileralum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 11:13 AM   #36
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

For those who actually taste vagina instead of only dreaming about it:
Quote:
1. jack up car, remove wheels and tires
2. bleed as normal
3. start engine, engage 2nd gear and activate ABS, repeat 10x
4. repeat step 2 another 3x.
5. install wheels and master cylinder brace that you left off, lower car
6. ball hard
7. profit
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 02:28 PM   #37
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Another day of ball hard brakes.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 03:02 PM   #38
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 176
Total Cats: 0
Default

can you bleed from the bonjo bolts on the abs unit instead of the calipers?
x8mrxjohn8x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 03:08 PM   #39
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 14,367
Total Cats: 1,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
Another day of ball hard brakes.

"Ball" is the verb form. You're looking for the adverb form, "balling".
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2009, 03:15 PM   #40
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by x8mrxjohn8x View Post
can you bleed from the bonjo bolts on the abs unit instead of the calipers?
I did that last time to no avail. You can't pull a vacuum there. I won't do it again unless I've done the other method 3 times with no luck.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Savington View Post
"Ball" is the verb form. You're looking for the adverb form, "balling".
Weer een dag met keiharde remmen. There, I'll use my own language then.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 59 Today 09:00 PM
OTS Bilstein to motorsports ASN conversion stoves Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 5 04-21-2016 04:00 PM
Is my swirl pot design okay? FrankB Race Prep 10 10-02-2015 10:00 PM
Leaky Wilwoods mx592 Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 1 10-01-2015 01:45 AM
3rd Time's a Charm...hopefully. zephyrusaurai Meet and Greet 2 09-28-2015 11:59 PM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:49 PM.