capri xr2 motor swap
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Dude, do some reading. Look at p51's build. He was super budget. If you've got a t25 why not just get another cheap 1.6 or even 1.8 and get a mani and downpipe? IMO if you're going for budget, stick with something that's been done and there is support for. Oh and I bought my Greddy kit brand new like 6 years ago for a grand. You can find them cheap if you stalk the for sale section.
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Sorry about being so IN YOUR FACE about it, but I had to get the point across. If it's originality you're after, a Capri motor swap is your answer, but just know we have no answers currently. Good luck.
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If you really want to swap a capri motor in your car, go for it. I figured you want some input from people who have turbo'd these engines. The parts for the MS are like 300 dollars. Solder it yourself. Whatever you do good luck on your quest. (no e-thuggin intended)
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i appreciate the alternative feedback but really, i bought the car witht he intentions of boosting it...therefore,
have already learned that sourcing out a turbo kit is a good possiblility, even on the cheap. which is why i bought the car in the first place.
if you really must need a reason to stop busting my *****, it has a OEM turbo setup, it has an ecu that is tuned for the b6 motor under boost, no need for standalone or bandaid, less miles than my motor, runs unlike my motor, is cheaper than sourcing out my own kit and tuning it, they go very cheap in junkyards (same price as a miata b6) would be easier to upgrade since the motor is already boosted.
Dude, do some reading. Look at p51's build. He was super budget. If you've got a t25 why not just get another cheap 1.6 or even 1.8 and get a mani and downpipe? IMO if you're going for budget, stick with something that's been done and there is support for. Oh and I bought my Greddy kit brand new like 6 years ago for a grand. You can find them cheap if you stalk the for sale section.
im going to find the answers to my own questions the hard way. ill come back once my miata is boosted, or the motor is swapped.
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I'll just provide some clarification here.
The block and head are the same and will just drop right in if you switch out a few things, most notable the CAS and the manifolds. I'm just talking about the bare longblock here, I make no promises about accesories. Any way you spin it though, you WILL need a new exhaust manifold/downpipe/turbo because it is currently set up for FWD and the turbo is facing the wrong direction.
The ECU wont work, it relies on a distributor and therefor wont work with the miata ignition system. The voodoo box is a waste of money. If you are good with wiring and soldering as you claim, you would have no problem putting together a megasquirt for something like $250 dollars ( no bullshit here, I'm pretty sure the grand total on the one I built for my friend was ~260 with some extra options).
There are some good reasons to do this swap, 7.8:1 compression being one of them. Running compression that low will allow you to run a stupid amount of boost on pump gas. On a good tune, you could feasibly have a fairly reliable car in the ballpark of 260whp. ( But without a megasquirt or some other "real" form of engine management, you wont even come close to being able to take advantage of what that motor would be capable of).
You want to drop in a "turbo" motor, but its not that simple. With all of the parts you would need to make this work, you are basically buying about 90% of a turbo kit. PLUS a motor. It would honestly be cheaper to just save up and get a BEGI-S or a Shanghai.
The block and head are the same and will just drop right in if you switch out a few things, most notable the CAS and the manifolds. I'm just talking about the bare longblock here, I make no promises about accesories. Any way you spin it though, you WILL need a new exhaust manifold/downpipe/turbo because it is currently set up for FWD and the turbo is facing the wrong direction.
The ECU wont work, it relies on a distributor and therefor wont work with the miata ignition system. The voodoo box is a waste of money. If you are good with wiring and soldering as you claim, you would have no problem putting together a megasquirt for something like $250 dollars ( no bullshit here, I'm pretty sure the grand total on the one I built for my friend was ~260 with some extra options).
There are some good reasons to do this swap, 7.8:1 compression being one of them. Running compression that low will allow you to run a stupid amount of boost on pump gas. On a good tune, you could feasibly have a fairly reliable car in the ballpark of 260whp. ( But without a megasquirt or some other "real" form of engine management, you wont even come close to being able to take advantage of what that motor would be capable of).
You want to drop in a "turbo" motor, but its not that simple. With all of the parts you would need to make this work, you are basically buying about 90% of a turbo kit. PLUS a motor. It would honestly be cheaper to just save up and get a BEGI-S or a Shanghai.
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I'll just provide some clarification here.
The block and head are the same and will just drop right in if you switch out a few things, most notable the CAS and the manifolds. I'm just talking about the bare longblock here, I make no promises about accesories. Any way you spin it though, you WILL need a new exhaust manifold/downpipe/turbo because it is currently set up for FWD and the turbo is facing the wrong direction.
The block and head are the same and will just drop right in if you switch out a few things, most notable the CAS and the manifolds. I'm just talking about the bare longblock here, I make no promises about accesories. Any way you spin it though, you WILL need a new exhaust manifold/downpipe/turbo because it is currently set up for FWD and the turbo is facing the wrong direction.
i had a feeling that the turbo wouldnt be facing the right way. wouldve been the same story if i had done the mitsubishi mighty max > 4g63 swap, except that no modification to the intake manifold wouldve been necessary.
again, thank you for this post, had someone answered with a post like this i wouldnt have spent so much time answering and arguing about **** i already knew.
like i said, i will be back once my miata is boosted. (or if i do a 2j swap, since that looks to be very possible) i dont want to deal with **** like this, i was asking a simple question.
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You could whine a little more if you want, I'm sure that will help
Welcome to the world of online forums man. If you have thin skin and you're asking a question people might not understand, you'll end up taking your toys home and pouting--every time.
Welcome to the world of online forums man. If you have thin skin and you're asking a question people might not understand, you'll end up taking your toys home and pouting--every time.
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No, no, it is ME who would like to extend a warm welcome to the world of forums to YOU. This particular forum has post dates with each post. And this particular post is roughly 9 months and 3 days old. Please refrain from bumping old threads, they're most likely dead for a reason.
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No, no, it is ME who would like to extend a warm welcome to the world of forums to YOU. This particular forum has post dates with each post. And this particular post is roughly 9 months and 3 days old. Please refrain from bumping old threads, they're most likely dead for a reason.
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