Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 691642)
Make it less rigid in one plane like the stock MSM one.
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Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 691642)
Make it less rigid in one plane like the stock MSM one.
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Originally Posted by dv/dt
(Post 691653)
What are everyone thoughts on connecting this to the oil return flange? Jacking with the oil fittings makes me nervous in general. |
I still like the single support under the turbo. It follows the "keep it simple stupid" mantra. One support that can take the entire weight of the turbo. Adjustable so it can be preloaded. As you mentioned earlier the farther the turbo assembly is away from the engine, the more the "lever arm" physics stat to play a part. A long radius will create a lot of Force when the car is in motion. Quick suspension compression and rebound movements must be brutal on the turbo an manifold.
A preloaded single arm under the turbo will remove all of this experienced load from sharp movements of the car. The harder part is finding a good place to mount the bracket that supports the single support. i.e can it go from the block to the chassis? constructing a mount that bolts to the motor mount are shouldn't be too difficult. |
Originally Posted by dv/dt
(Post 691653)
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It's steel painted with silver high heat paint.
Originally Posted by djp0623
(Post 691661)
This looks like failboat. Possitive is that it is aluminum so it dissipates heat, negatives is that the aluminum will flex in the direction that will put load on the the turbo/manifold attatchment point. If it is not aluminum, then it might be ok
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Originally Posted by dv/dt
(Post 691662)
It's steel painted with silver high heat paint.
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I'm starting to realize that I have to weld to the turbine housing. However, although Jkav said the turbine housing was CoM, my housing is much lighter than most cast iron housings, maybe even the chra is CoM.
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So you are using the nimonic/iconel bolts from Tial so they shouldn't stretch but they are coming loose from vibration? or do the iconel bolts stretch with movement of the turbo/manifold?
If you just need to safety wire the iconel bolts but don't want to have them drilled you can get bend up safety wire tab washers. You just bend the tabs up around the head of the bolt and then safety wire the holes. cheap too. http://www.tbmperformance.com/produc...b-Washers.html |
OK I'm dense, which bolt(s) is hustler having trouble with now, and why is the solution better support and not a more heat resistant bolt?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 691645)
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 691633)
How do I make a rigid brace that permits expansion and contraction of the manifold?
I'm brainstorming... |
Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 691684)
OK I'm dense, which bolt(s) is hustler having trouble with now, and why is the solution better support and not a more heat resistant bolt?
TiAL doesn't understand the need for a failsafe, drilled inconel bolt. So I'm stuck using the standard crap metal bolt supplied by TiAL |
Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
(Post 691684)
OK I'm dense, which bolt(s) is hustler having trouble with now, and why is the solution better support and not a more heat resistant bolt?
Really, thanks to everyone for their input. I never thought that by the time I was 30 (1-more day) that I'd have a car like this with such respectable engineering. |
A few comments, some OT and some not.
Aren't these cranes meant to support the weight of the turbo and also keep the manifold from cracking? I don't think that their intended purpose is to keep bolts from coming out. Have you tried resbonding your turbine bolts? OT: Why keep your lower timing belt cover but not the upper? P.S. You can install the ATI damper with the motor in the car no problemo. I have a how-to in my build thread. I think someone was selling a used one here for $400 recently. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 691690)
Hard rubber biscuit like a motor mount or similar? It would quell vibration, support some weight, and allow expansion without cracking the manifold.
I'm brainstorming... |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 691709)
My progression:
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 691709)
My progression:
In which case, address the vibration issue. |
I'd post every one of Hustler's "buy a v-band peasant" type of quotes but I'm too lazy. :hustler:
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