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Old 08-29-2012, 04:51 PM   #21
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It would be hard to see by pic but where the clutch plate sits in the pp I literally had to pull it hard to get it out and when I try to put it in the pp I have to push it in its like the pp needs shaved on the inner ringing that makes sence
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:10 PM   #22
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weird.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:20 PM   #23
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Almost like the cheap clutch wasn't made correctly - imagine that.

We only sell ACTs for a reason.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:23 PM   #24
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I'm ordering either a spec clutch or act I'm just waiting to hear back from my gay at my local shop
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Any one had good experience with spec at all?
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Well just got an ACT clutch hopefully I get to drive the miata Friday
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which did you buy?
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ACT ZM1-XTSS this is the one I bought
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Any one had good experience with spec at all?
No, none. They are made just up the road from me and I have seen their shop quite a few times. I used to be friends with a few of those guys, and they used to make better products. But now, I wouldn't with a Spec clutch on my worst enemy. Go ACT all the way. Spec will give you nothing but trouble, no matter what series you go with. They are all junk.

n/m, I see you chose correctly. Any ACT > Any Spec

I hope your hydraulics can handle the stiffer PP. I know out slave cylinders tend to not like upgraded, stiff clutches. I might have gone with the next step down in PP, unless you intend to make some pretty serious power.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:17 AM   #30
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About Spec clutches:

I will NOT buy another one. Period.

This is after less than 10K miles of non-abusive driving on a Spec stage 2.5.
Clutch was installed with a machined flywheel, and break in procedure was followed religiously.





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Old 08-30-2012, 11:42 AM   #31
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ACT ZM1-XTSS this is the one I bought

good job.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:01 PM   #32
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just because its cheap dose not mean it wont work. yes they may have problems for some but you can put any clutch in wrong and get the same result. if i did perhaps install it wrong and it works i will be happy with it but if i flip the clutch and still nothing than im going to blame the clutch

So it did turn out your cheap clutch did not work. I am not against "cheaping" out on some things. Clutches are just one of those things though where the amount of work to fix it if it does not work the first time is a PITA. There are only 3 brands of clutches that I will ever recommend or install on a miata. Those are ACT, FM, and 949 Twin-Disks. I will berate anyone that buys any other clutch because of being cheap.
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ACT, FM, and 949 Twin-Disks...
I will berate anyone that buys any other clutch because of being cheap.
For the record, that Spec I had bought was not cheap at all. Just crappy.
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It was made with CF pucks...so what did you expect?
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #35
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CF side looked OK. It was the CM side that had gone **** up.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:13 PM   #36
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that's not what I'm seeing from the pics. Those teeny tiny CF pucks are completely worn to the rivets, where the ceramic/organic side (whtaever it is) looks new.
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The 6 puck setup you see in the third pic is the CF side, Scott..
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:30 PM   #38
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no it's not. that the normal clutch material side, the otherside is the CF material.


I'm pretty sure the "full-faced" kevlar goes on the flywheel for "smooth" engagement, and the pucked organic side is PP for maximum grip. But I could be wrong, but I dont think I am.

I've had a CF Dual Friction clutch before, it also sucked. Where the CF side was pucked as well, it engaged great but slipped like hell when cold.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:49 PM   #39
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hopefully once i get the clutch in i can start to drive around the block and get some tuning going untill it break's in
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