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Old 04-25-2008, 03:54 AM   #1
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crappy cam angle sensor bracket,
Converted to protege valve cover and already cut my old one, i dont want to buy a new one, ide rather put the money towards MS
no matter where i adjust it, my scan tool tells me the ignition timing is either at 2*BTDC or 26*BTDC, alldata tells me it should be between 6-18 *BTDC
the bracket its pretty solid, i dont think it moves with torque, it has trouble idling as well, as for adjustablility, i just kinda bend it to my will (have to remove it and put in in a vice)
it cant move much in the hole, its pretty similar size to the bolt, it cant slide but it can rotate. also its slightly offset towards the exhaust cam, so that i can rotate it and it stays pretty aligned with the circumference of the cam gear
Any ideas?
pops thinks it might just go into a failsafe because its so NOT synced properly

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Old 04-25-2008, 04:15 AM   #2
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he broke it.... i'm guessing he wants us to help him find another one?
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btw OP was blank 'cause some stuff was supposed to be moved by a mod, but it didnt work out. and you happened to see it before i actually typed anything to fix it.
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That bracket looks like a bad idea IMO. That thing should be solid as a rock. Is that what's being used for the NB? Can't imagine the accuracy isn't effected by vibration transmitted through that cantilevered arm.
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Honestly the bracket isnt as weak as it looks, its like 1/8 thick steel, and the bends give it rigidity. thats the thing, the timing stays linear, doesnt move from its crappy left field advances. even with engine vibration, the only thing that might change the timing behavior over a couple days is the fact that i regularly try ******* with it to adjust it, and i leave it just loose enough for me to move, but it takes a lot of effort, i can flick it without it moving, so that might not be it either..
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SO i got this, and i was wondering if there was a way to use it with my stock ECU
My guess is a big fat NO, which is aight cause im getting my MS very soon anyway, but if there were a possible way it'd work, id love to give it a shot.
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More detailed pics of the bracket. Let me say this again. MORE PICS! I can almost guarantee you the bracket is not strong enough, and that's 1/2 the problem. First of all that bracket needs a provision for you adjust how far away it is from the cam gear. When I hooked up MS II, I was having syncing problems reading the CPS (Yes, it's a cam POSITION sensor... not CAS). I was moving the sensor by .010 inches at a time and the ecu was going nuts. I was using a hole punch to punch holes in paper, then cutting out washers. The paper was like .003 thick, so my 3 spacers was .009 thick. I'd put the paper between the sensor and the cam cover to space the sensor away from the gear. This is how I would suggest moving the sensor, not pulling all that **** and putting it in a vice. You'll never make fine adjustments that way. Build that bracket super rigid and with the sensor very close, then shim it out till it's right.
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The Bracket while i was making it . . .
I dont want to pull the bitch off 'cause i got my car running alright right now,




I position it as CLOSE as i can to the rotating nubs
the thing i dont get is, it ONLY goes to those two ignition times, 2* and 26* BTDC
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