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Old 08-11-2008, 11:13 PM
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This is what im talking about.

Connect those two lines together?
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no.

there is a line that runs up from the bottom of the canister. you can't see it in that pic. you will disconnect the lines on top (remove the vacuum lines and the solenoid all together) and hook the bigger of the two on the top to the one coming from the bottom.

It'll make more sense once you remove it.

take note though that the hoses going to the canister and from the canister are two different sizes, and you will have to clamp the crap out of one end. I wasn't comfortable with the thought of having any chance for open gasoline vapors that close to my alternator so i pussied out and put the canister back in.
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
really? I thought I saw one under there way back when i had my NA and changed the fuel filter....

I stand corrected. (But I still want to see what is inside the little canister under the hood)
If I was at home right now, I'd tear mine apart because now I'm curious too. lol

Sam, look at post #9, that's what you'll end up with after you remove the canister and connect the two hard lines together. One of the hoses you'll remove actually fits between the two hard lines really well as it curves almost perfectly to fit. Just slip the clamps onto the hose and connect the hardlines.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:13 AM
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Ok someone mentioned fuel vapors, alternators and exploding.

What are the chances of this?

By connecting the top line and the bottom line, what am I effectively doing? What are the two lines that run into the bottom and into the top? one i know is for manifold vac.
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Here's an idea-

Just leave the damn thing. 1) It's not in the way (removing it won't make it easier to work on your car), and 2) removing it won't make your car perform any better.

On the other hand, you will waste time three ways: 1) removing it, 2) asking questions about how to remove it, 3) and replacing it for emissions testing.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:56 AM
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If it doesnt throw CEL's then it really doesnt matter. I'm not gonna replace it.

What I want to do is use its space for WI.
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It won't throw a code unless you disconnect the silenoid as well.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:12 AM
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I did what everyone else did with mine, remove it and run the two tubes together with one line. I also decided to get a hack saw and cut it open to see what was inside before I tried to make a catch can out of it. There it a paper filter on top and two on bottom, one being a big circle and the other being a small one that fits inside of the larger one. There is charcoal in there aswell.
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hmm, i capped the lines. Maybe not such a good idea?
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I just wasted 7 minutes reading this, why couldn't you guys get to the point sooner??!!
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So, since i capped off the lines, is my gas tank going to pop? I don't notice any excessive pressure when i remove the gas cap.
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^ No. Most likely its a circulation through the canister. No more canister so it just goes back to wherever it came.
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have a look at this....http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15120

I followed the instructions, no more big black canister, no problems.
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Brilliant, im tossing mine when I get my new radiator in.
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unless your totally shaving or engine bay or making an all out race car i see no point in removing any part of your evap system.

with as much as people complain about ricers on this forum i'm a little surprised to see this topic come up as often as it does. it's not hurting performance, and it just makes more effort come inspection time.

are people really underhood often enough for it to be in the way on a basis frequent enough to warrant removal?

next are you guys going to take the gas cap off to save weight?

i'm not trying to convince/flame anyone, just ranting i guess. to each his own, but i don't get it.
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I'm doing it. Not because it gets in the way, but that we don't have inspections in FL, and I plan on doing a semi wire tuck this fall.
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that i understand, it's just the "doing it to do it" that bothers me i guess.

i'd just as soon spend the time going for a drive.
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Originally Posted by ChairFaceChippendale
that i understand, it's just the "doing it to do it" that bothers me i guess.

i'd just as soon spend the time going for a drive.
Im gonna put the water injection pump there, so the space will be well used.

Does that qualify me for approval for removal from you?
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that depends, where is said water being injected?



please don't answer that question seriously.
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I removed my charcoal canister about 6 months ago, and did nothing with the lines. On occasion, fuel will spurt from the bottom line so you definitely need to do something about the bottom line. Capping it would be bad as that is the vent for it.
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