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Old 07-08-2011, 04:38 PM   #1
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Default Fast Forward Supercharger OR Flyin Miata Hydra Turbo?

My goal is at least 230hp to the rear wheels. my car is a 97 that is a daily driver. i plan on rebuilding the engine, building it with some good engine internals, and throwing a 99 head on it, as well as some mods to the parts, head, ect.

i know that the Fast Forward Supercharger can make *190-200whp* from what they claim and thats on a stock engine. but with a built engine im sure that i can achieve 230hp.

But the Flyin Miata Hydra System can make up to 280whp with a built engine, and can even go beyond that hp mark. So i will no doubt make 230whp adn i will even have room to adjust if i want more power.

i want at least 230whp and reliablilty.

Which is the better choice?
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Definitely go with the FFS kit. Superchargers are superior to turbos because they have better efficiency, can generate much more airflow, and run way cooler. Plus with the industry leading "E-Cool" system your car will be running like a champ.

Big noisy turbos and shiny front mount intercoolers are for posers and hard parkers. The real motorsport leaders are all supercharged. The "best of the best" are the FastForwardSupercharged crew who are basically putting down better power curves than the rest of the miata aftermarket enthusiasts community.
Call Tom @ FFS and he will hook you up bro.

By the way, I'd really like to take this opportunity to commend you on your superb research skills, and congratulate you on being a spectacular noob, making an intro thread, not asking vague and beat to death questions, using the search feature. You will do well here. Another very helpful and technical site you might want to check out is ClubRoadster.net. I hear its overloaded with functional cars and very intelligent and helpful members that will provide the best of advice to you in your future endevors.

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Definitely go with the FM kit. Turbochargers are superior to supers because they have better efficiency, can generate much more airflow, and run way cooler. Plus with the industry leading Hydra Nemesis your car will be running like a champ.

Big noisy superchargers and fancy common-plenum injectors are for posers and hard parkers. The real motorsport leaders are all turbocharged. The "best of the best" are the FlyinMiata crew who are basically putting down better power curves than the rest of the miata aftermarket enthusiasts community.

Call Bill @ FM and he will hook you up bro.

By the way, I'd really like to take this opportunity to commend you on your superb research skills, and congratulate you on being a spectacular noob, making an intro thread, not asking vague and beat to death questions, using the search feature. You will do well here. Another very helpful and technical site you might want to check out is ClubRoadster.net. I hear its overloaded with functional cars and very intelligent and helpful members that will provide the best of advice to you in your future endevors.

Good luck Friend
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No need to point him over to cr.net, he posted the same thread over there about 45 minutes ago.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=48186
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No need to point him over to cr.net, he posted the same thread over there about 45 minutes ago.

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=48186
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Lol. sorry no intro thread. there isnt much to say. ive got a miata. whuptido. obviosuly everyone else does on the forum. so thats no suprise. and for the search feature? that doesnt always work. show me someone who asked the same exact question i did, with the same use of words and everything. i mean come on. no reason to be dicks. all i wanted was a decent answer. ive got a daily driver miata, ive read on alot posts that a daily driver turbo is a hassle, requires tons of maintaince over the years, and is no go for a everyday daily. i have also read about the same exact thing about superchargers, so all i wanted to do was to respectfully get some peoples opinions on the kits, the pros and cons of each persons individual experience with their kits, and so on. im sorry for noobing up the site.
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My goal is at least 230hp to the rear wheels. my car is a 97 that is a daily driver. i plan on rebuilding the engine, building it with some good engine internals, and throwing a 99 head on it, as well as some mods to the parts, head, ect.

i know that the Fast Forward Supercharger can make *190-200whp* from what they claim and thats on a stock engine. but with a built engine im sure that i can achieve 230hp.

But the Flyin Miata Hydra System can make up to 280whp with a built engine, and can even go beyond that hp mark. So i will no doubt make 230whp adn i will even have room to adjust if i want more power.

i want at least 230whp and reliablilty.

Which is the better choice?

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Lol. sorry no intro thread. there isnt much to say. ive got a miata. whuptido. obviosuly everyone else does on the forum. so thats no suprise. and for the search feature? that doesnt always work. show me someone who asked the same exact question i did, with the same use of words and everything. i mean come on. no reason to be dicks. all i wanted was a decent answer. ive got a daily driver miata, ive read on alot posts that a daily driver turbo is a hassle, requires tons of maintaince over the years, and is no go for a everyday daily. i have also read about the same exact thing about superchargers, so all i wanted to do was to respectfully get some peoples opinions on the kits, the pros and cons of each persons individual experience with their kits, and so on. im sorry for noobing up the site.

WTF happened?
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Hmm, is this website called miataSUPER.net?
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I'm amazed no one has registered the domain name www.miatathuper.net yet.
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Funny thing is that a quick search for FFS would have yield the overall opinion of the site and its members regarding that particular vendor...
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Me? You're the one who kept editing your damn post so that I had to keep revising mine to match it.

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The FFS is an inherently flawed idea (coldside Roots blower), with an archaic charge-cooling setup, an overpriced and underequipped piggyback system, and a manufacturer that doesn't have the kind of technical grasp that I would expect of someone intent on taking $3500 of my money in exchange for a supercharger kit.

Get the FM turbo kit, or wait 6 months and buy a better kit from us.
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Me? You're the one who kept editing your damn post so that I had to keep revising mine to match it.

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The FFS is an inherently flawed idea (coldside Roots blower), with an archaic charge-cooling setup, an overpriced and underequipped piggyback system, and a manufacturer that doesn't have the kind of technical grasp that I would expect of someone intent on taking $3500 of my money in exchange for a supercharger kit.

Get the FM turbo kit, or wait 6 months and buy a better kit from us.
Savington is being very polite with his choice in words. This is about as polite as its going to get around here, OP.

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You guys crack me up.

Clearly the m45 hotside kit from moss is superior to all miata forced induction products.
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