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Old 02-22-2009, 09:32 PM   #1
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:40 PM   #2
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:02 PM   #3
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He, surprised I'm not banned from that forum after the last time I visited, calling out a few morons on there.
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I visit that forum about once each week (despite being banned ... thank you anonymous proxy servers) just to see what's being discussed. Happened to notice that thread today and couldn't resist alerting Paul.
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Old 02-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #7
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I'm sad I bothered to go and read... my poor head.

Paul... I might be in town end of march... I think wife will be taking her mom to AC on sunday or monday... so I'll be around if anyone is gathering at all.
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Paul... I might be in town end of march... I think wife will be taking her mom to AC on sunday or monday... so I'll be around if anyone is gathering at all.
Ill let paul know. He doesn't check the forum as much anymore. I go to AC about once a week so chances are that I will be down there too. Jason (compy) is also right outside of AC. There's an Autox in philly on the 24th too if you're around for that.
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I don't even have an account there. It makes my head hurt.
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That site's almost as bad as houston imports
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:11 PM   #11
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FM's dyno does read high though. They adjust HP to compensate for altitude (they're at high altitude)- this has the correct effect on N/A or supercharged cars (since they make proportionally less boost with lower ambient pressure) but for a turbocharged car, it inflates the numbers significantly.

This is why stock cars read with normal HP on the FM dyno. If they weren't correcting for ambient air pressure, the stock cars would actually read low.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:30 PM   #12
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I dont understand, why would you not want an extra ~40rwhp and ~15 ft-lbs after a dynotune for the $5000 you spent on your kit?

I'm very fortunate by finding this forum before any other haha.
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Hey, it is no worse than buying a supercharger system. You'll spend the same amount on a turbo but get ~ 50 less hp.
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I know it's hard for a lot of you to phathom, but I know a lot of guys that do most of their tuning on the track and street and never feel the need to go to a dyno. It's their choice and that how they like to do business, that doen't make them morons. I'd be more willing to slap a moron tag on a person that thinks there way is the only way.
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The topic drifted too far...that being said, you wont get 300rwhp out of the box without a little effort on your part.
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Hey, it is no worse than buying a supercharger system. You'll spend the same amount on a turbo but get ~ 50 less hp.
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A GT3071 to make 300whp? DAMN, they have some issues on that site.
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QQQQ said "It is not a necessary tool for tuning".

WTF!!!!
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The topic drifted too far...that being said, you wont get 300rwhp out of the box without a little effort on your part.
Which the original poster acknowledged may be the case, but is not that concerned about that. The guy has 3 atoms and the MSM he has is somewhat of an after thought for him, he just wants to slap on a decent kit that's easy to install, do a little tuning on the street and track and let the chip fall where they may. I know that's a hard concept for many of you because your maita is you primary performace car, but not everyone is that way. When I had my mustang project, I'd toss an occasional bolt-on on the MSM and be on my way, mot to concerned about the exact details or numbers. And as a good example, my mustang made over 600rwhp without dyno tuning. The guy that tuned it did a most of his tuning that way. When I finally did take it to a dyno, I picked up another 30 rwhp with the dyno. That 30 hp didn't make that much difference to me. The car already exceeded my primary purpose. I've been around cars for a lot of years, long before I ever bought a miata, and I can tell you there are guys out there that can do a lot of things well using what use to be conventional means, but new technology like dynos don't always translate over to the way they like to do things. He'll I know guys that can tune a damn carbed turbo car on the track, and the dyno queens are still chasing him.
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QQQQ said "It is not a necessary tool for tuning".

WTF!!!!
It's not necessary, it a great tool for tuning, but not necessary. Up until a few years back, dynos cost too much to be a cost effective tool for tuning for the average joe. How do you think people did it before then?
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