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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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The real truth is that I tuned it.

Hopefully that explains everything.

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The dyno graph isnt upside down.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Yes it is.

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Yes it is.

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It would be for you, we see things right side up here.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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Nah, its the right way up from here so it must be upside down over there.
See?



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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
The real truth is that I tuned it.

Hopefully that explains everything.

Dann

if you tuned it, it would be making 7523 ft-lbs and be posted upside down.

wasn't there another issue with an STP dyno posted here? Oh yeah, it was another TDR car when he posted here and we didnt give a ****.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Yes it is.
Dann
Haha!

Colin Hay is performing tonight over here in Largo, Florida. I wondered if he would be more comfortable playing guitar while standing on his head.

Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
I like the direction that thread has taken. Now multiple posters are saying that discussing AFR's, tuning, and reliability constitute "trolling", and that all they care about is seeing dyno results.
That is the TUNING section, there will be no discussions of tuning!
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
if you tuned it, it would be making 7523 ft-lbs
You KNOW it.



By the way I asked for some measured data on VVT over there.

Is VVT usually capable of being tuned as opposed to just switched on and off at different RPM? I was under the impression that all VVT ran from oil pressure on a solenoid, or is that Oldschool now?

What components allows the VVT angle to be changed as opposed to open and closed?

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Originally Posted by nitrodann
What components allows the VVT angle to be changed as opposed to open and closed?
the stock ones.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:15 AM
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... That doesn't explain anything at all.

Cheers,
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
... That doesn't explain anything at all.

Cheers,
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vvt is not vtec. It normally works with some sort of mechamism that allows the angle of the cam to change relatively to the cam pulley.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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I understand that fully, its usually powered by oil pressure and that pressure is controlled with a solenoid, I just cannot think of how the 'new modern' way of doing it that allows it to be stepped in angle, as opposed to naturally sit in one setting on a stop, and then have oil pressure push it to the stop a few degrees around.

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the solenoid turns on and off very quickly, just like boost control you dont think an ebc has only wastegate pressure or ALLOFIT do you?
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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True variable VVT (IE, not an on/off switch) has been around for quite some time.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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No, but having pulled apart VVT setups before I just dont see that accurately controlling angle, I mean, against something as irregularly shaped as a cam at xyz rpm and you are just going to PWM it to a specific angle with constantly changing oil pressure?

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
True variable VVT (IE, not an on/off switch) has been around for quite some time.
Awesome, do you know how it works?

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
No, but having pulled apart VVT setups before I just dont see that accurately controlling angle, I mean, against something as irregularly shaped as a cam at xyz rpm and you are just going to PWM it to a specific angle with constantly changing oil pressure?

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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Awesome, do you know how it works?

Dann

I don't know how it works on the NC, because i don't have an NC, and therefor, i don't care.
Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Lol.

if someone knows or has a link to some pics Id be very interested, I have an NC racecar parked 4 metres from me right now, but I dont really want to pull it that far down and risk having to replace seals and **** just to understand.

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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Awesome, do you know how it works?

Dann
sounds similar to honda's i-vtec





I'm trying to find the video I saw once that uses pneumatic valves which allows all valves in the head to be independently controlled from each other unlike a camshaft. It's a true Variable Valve Timing system. Pretty neat stuff. Just can't remember what the video was titled


EDIT: Found it


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