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concealer404 09-24-2013 10:38 AM

I'm guessing it's probably different from Toyota vvt-i that was around on the BEAMS motors.

nitrodann 09-24-2013 10:39 AM

That's exactly what it is, I can see how with small orifices that could be PWM controlled. Fair enough.

Thanks,
Dann

Leafy 09-24-2013 10:39 AM

Its probably similar to the VVT on the newer ford duratech motors.

nitrodann 09-24-2013 10:43 AM

With small orifices slowing the change in angle and good PWM a system similar to how honda works could be used.

Fair call.

Do we know if they are tightening the LSA to get more power towards the top end?

NC is intake cam VVT only?

Dann

cyotani 09-24-2013 10:53 AM

I love how the original M.net post added estimated crank horsepower numbers. Just to make it look more impressive.



Also, bumped to third page for some cool pneumatic cam-less valvetrain.


hornetball 09-24-2013 11:33 AM

Thread direction change is win.

Tw34k 09-24-2013 02:08 PM

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I found a rare clip of a m.net tuner in action




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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1380046083

Dunning Kruger Affect 09-24-2013 02:21 PM

My car has a retarded tune, but at least my AFRs are above 12. (black bumper is rainbow; exhaust backfires are magic)

concealer404 09-24-2013 02:22 PM

And that's what weirded me out the most. My MX6 is "tuned" in probably the worst way imaginable, would make most of you cringe if you saw it in person.

But even my AFRs aren't that bad.

thenuge26 09-24-2013 03:28 PM

My favorite part was the guy saying the extra fuel was to keep the cat cool. Because we all know throwing gasoline at a hot object is the best way to cool it.

mgeoffriau 09-24-2013 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1056655)
My favorite part was the guy saying the extra fuel was to keep the cat cool. Because we all know throwing gasoline at a hot object is the best way to cool it.

HOLY SHIT you just inspired to invent a new thing.


E-Cool Exhaust Injector
"Keep Your Cats Cool with the E-Cool Exhaust Injector!"

y8s 09-24-2013 03:48 PM

^

1. inject exhaust into your engine with DEI.
2. inject fuel into your exhaust with EEI.
3. ???
4. Profit.

hornetball 09-24-2013 05:14 PM

:bowrofl:

I just sprayed my monitor with Diet Pepsi. What kind of injection is that?

cyotani 09-24-2013 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1056678)
:bowrofl:

I just sprayed my monitor with Diet Pepsi. What kind of injection is that?


that would be aspartame injection.

Braineack 09-24-2013 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1056655)
My favorite part was the guy saying the extra fuel was to keep the cat cool. Because we all know throwing gasoline at a hot object is the best way to cool it.

I could have sworn you throw in extra fuel to HEAT the cat. This is why cars are rich during warmup: So the cat gets to temp faster and starts working on cutting emissions sooner.

nitrodann 09-24-2013 08:15 PM

Really? Apart from the obvious choke thing?

Are cars exempt from testing in my places for a certain time period after cold start?

Dann

18psi 09-24-2013 08:17 PM

no place will test a cold car ever.
has to be completely up to operating temps and most will have you idle it for like 10 minutes before even putting it on the rollers/sniffer

FRT_Fun 09-24-2013 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1056723)
no place will test a cold car ever.
has to be completely up to operating temps and most will have you idle it for like 10 minutes before even putting it on the rollers/sniffer

That's probably why the emissions lines are always so damn long. I can't imagine a car not being to temp by the time it makes it to the front, unless the driver is turning it off.

nitrodann 09-24-2013 08:49 PM

So why is brain mentioning extra fuel on cold start for the cat, is he being facetious?

Dann

18psi 09-24-2013 09:05 PM

huh?
No, he is on point: all oem cars are tuned to run relatively rich on startup to heat up the cats faster. Many newer cars even have a "smog pump" which is basically an air pump that blows into the exhaust stream or heads resulting in more crap flowing through the cats on a cold start and heating them up faster.


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