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UrbanSoot 08-10-2009 05:40 PM

what do you estimate a cost for a hood will be (fiberglass)?

rharris19 08-10-2009 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 440934)
what do you estimate a cost for a hood will be (fiberglass)?

Between $175-$225. $175 if things go well and there isn't much work to be done to make the mold. $225 if we have to fabricate the scoop completely and it ends up being more labor intesive than we thought. More than likely will be $200.

REMINDER: I am not making money off of this. I want to help you guys out and give my guys something to do since it is a little slow. I'm not trying to step on any toes by selling stuff here. If there is a problem with that admins, please let me know.

hustler 08-10-2009 05:53 PM

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/moto...aranello_1.jpg

but all I really want is a vent in front of the hump with a .75-1" air foil. Simple, almost stock, sexy time.

rharris19 08-10-2009 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 440941)
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2006/moto...aranello_1.jpg

but all I really want is a vent in front of the hump with a .75-1" air foil. Simple, almost stock, sexy time.

Oh yeah, that screams simple right there. I know what you mean though

p51hellfire 08-10-2009 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 440170)
I highly recommend you STFU before your skin becomes my new coat.

just make sure you tuck your sack, Hannibal.....:giggle:

superslow 08-10-2009 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by p51hellfire (Post 440947)
just make sure you tuck your sack, Hannibal.....:giggle:

Actually, you mean Jame Gumb, a.k.a. "Buffalo Bill". Hannibal was not a transexual necropheliac..

Anyway, I am with Y8. Small and hairless.... er... I mean, please consider something for NB. Simple and functional. And not ghetto ugly like the current 'extractor' offerings at cr.net.

x8mrxjohn8x 08-12-2009 01:36 AM

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This is pretty sick
If i was in CT, i would pick this up in a flash.

aftermarket miata autokonexion hood:eBay Motors (item 280382625774 end time Aug-14-09 14:10:34 PDT)

levnubhin 08-12-2009 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 440933)
@lev; what size hole did you cut? Wonder if I can get that scoop in the hole I cut.


The scoop is iirc 18x10, you need about 1/2 on each side so 17x9 would be the biggest the hole should be.
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hustler 08-12-2009 08:58 AM

don't copy the autokkkoonexun hood becuase it won't fit with a '99 motor.

MazDilla 08-12-2009 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 441687)
don't copy the autokkkoonexun hood becuase it won't fit with a '99 motor.

That issue was fixed in a subsequent run...

leatherface24 08-12-2009 09:57 AM

well the new one for the NB will lol

Braineack 08-12-2009 10:13 AM

Just don't put the extractor TOO far back"

http://www.boostedmiata.com/random/hood2.jpg

http://www.boostedmiata.com/random/hood3.jpg




I like simplicity:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...n/DSC_2496.jpg

make this.

rharris19 08-12-2009 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 441710)

That's what I am going for. I will make a regular headlight version of it first and if things go well, then a no headlight version.

levnubhin 08-12-2009 10:41 AM

It's simple, mold a carbon trix scoop into a stock hood, make copies in fiberglass and sell them. Done
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rharris19 08-12-2009 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 441723)
It's simple, mold a carbon trix scoop into a stock hood, make copies in fiberglass and sell them. Done

SHHHHHHHHH! Already have the scoop on the way

levnubhin 08-12-2009 11:00 AM

Haha, awesome.
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Double O 86 08-12-2009 11:25 AM

For your next project, please make this body kit but for an NB Miata.

Newbsauce 08-12-2009 11:39 AM

Count me in for one. :)

hustler 08-12-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 441731)
SHHHHHHHHH! Already have the scoop on the way

I'd like to pick up that and my bumper next weekend. I may even bring a little Piraat to show my appreciation.

rharris19 08-12-2009 11:54 AM

Hopefully it is all done by then. It is all up in the air right now, but I will know better on friday. If I have the scoop in by then, I can make it over the weekend. If not, then the trip may need to be postponed until the 29th.

hustler 08-12-2009 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 441761)
Hopefully it is all done by then. It is all up in the air right now, but I will know better on friday. If I have the scoop in by then, I can make it over the weekend. If not, then the trip may need to be postponed until the 29th.

That's fine...I would rather not do it next weekend anyway (traveling home from Santa Fe).

thesnowboarder 08-12-2009 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 441687)
don't copy the autokkkoonexun hood becuase it won't fit with a '99 motor.

why the shit not?

A 99 top end is about to go into my car, and i have the autocockbullshitty hood..

:vash:

hustler 08-12-2009 02:22 PM

the intake plenum sits too high so the throttle body pipe will hit the hood.

Braineack 08-12-2009 02:23 PM

Both hoods (the original Autokensinzxnxonzaz copied) I posted above had dremel surgery to clear the VC. it's fun to cut fiberglass, it's like butter and makes a mess, very satisfying.


what;s said is I bought that extractor in Nov of '07 with the hopes of getting it molded to my hood....sigh. Now everyone is going to have it and I won't be the cool OG with it.

Splitime 08-12-2009 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 441829)
Both hoods (the original Autokensinzxnxonzaz copied) I posted above had dremel surgery to clear the VC. it's fun to cut fiberglass, it's like butter and makes a mess, very satisfying.


what;s said is I bought that extractor in Nov of '07 with the hopes of getting it molded to my hood....sigh. Now everyone is going to have it and I won't be the cool OG with it.

Just cut the hood and leave a raw gaping hole. Works for me :p

elesjuan 08-12-2009 02:57 PM

I like the pricing in this thread!

slutz4 08-13-2009 08:10 AM

any pictures of previous work that you have accomplished?

hustler 08-13-2009 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 441842)
Just cut the hood and leave a raw gaping hole. Works for me :p

just lean back, and open ya mouth.

Newbsauce 08-26-2009 06:57 PM

Okay, wheres the hood?!?!!!

elesjuan 09-04-2009 10:48 PM

Any update on this?

PLEASE Don't disappoint!!

ZX-Tex 09-04-2009 11:00 PM

I am seriously about to pull the trigger on the Carbontrixmegastylin hood scoop thingie so I am interested in status as well. That CR extractor hood group buy is getting nowhere in a hurry. And, whether the Autokonexiondriftingbuttsex hood sucks or not, it is more than I want to spend.

I need one for an NA BTW. The NB is being relegated to street duty so no need.

triple88a 09-04-2009 11:49 PM

I'd rather have an affordable fiberglass hard top. Everywhere i look they are more than 2k...

if its strict to bumpers/body kit/hood only then a wide bodykit that doesnt make the car look like poo would be great.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4...me20071mp1.jpg


http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-con...-extrema-1.jpg


http://www.niot.net/blog-images/11_A...us-extrema.jpg

ZX-Tex 09-05-2009 12:08 AM

^^ Those cars are damn sexy. I admit it, I have an erection.

EDIT: You know of course that kind of hood is really not possible on a front-engine car.

Gryff 09-05-2009 12:33 AM

I am definitely interested in this hood as well! I have been looking into extractor hoods for a little while now.

triple88a 09-05-2009 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 450756)
EDIT: You know of course that kind of hood is really not possible on a front-engine car.

yup, sadly the vents go way too low otherwise it would look sexy as hell :(

this is something that would work though assuming the vents are moved off to the outsides of the hood like above the headlights all the way back. Also according to that image thats where the lowest pressure is so even better.

http://www.anytuning.com/wp-content/...rr-concept.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ine/NBHOOD.jpg

now i wonder where is the highest pressure underneath the hood in the engine compartment.

Cococarbine3 09-05-2009 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 450783)
now i wonder where is the highest pressure underneath the hood in the engine compartment.

Behind the radiator...


From Perryrace:

V8Roadsters.com • View topic - 99 Miata LS1 Build "Twice as Nice"

"A small hose is connected to the gauge and then the end of the hose is positioned at 90 degrees to the air flow being measured. I therefore attached one end of the hose to the gauge and the other to a pole. We then drove down the highway at 60 MPH and mapped the pressure across the hood (hood was on a 94 Miata).

We then mounted the hose end in front of the radiator, and then behind the radiator. Again all measurements were taken at 60 MPH. The front of the radiator was measured at 1.25 and the rear of the radiator was measured at .65.

Therefore the pressure difference was .6

You can see here that there is still a positive pressure behind the radiator. In an ideal world there would be negative pressure behind the radiator. This would then draw air through the radiator. We thought that we could improve the air flow through the radiator by utilizing the low pressure zone as mapped on the hood. "

Attachment 203790

"So it was time to cut holes is the hood and see if there was a difference. I had a hail damaged hood on hand and utilizing the pressure map above we cut two holes in the hood and then measured the results.

Pressure behind the radiator was now at .22 (vs. .6 above) or a difference of 1.03 (vs .6 before the holes)."

triple88a 09-05-2009 02:45 AM

in other words those holes did a big difference in pressure drop behind the radiator.

Those holes also reduced all that air what would have to otherwise go underneath the car.

Savington 09-05-2009 03:05 AM

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Make this, in FRP, for $200ish, without headlight lids, and I will buy one tomorrow.

Mold it without headlights, but leave the little lines in. If someone wants headlights, they buy a scoop and stick it on their stock hood. If they want it molded in, they cut the headlight lids out and use it. If they want to fuck tens, they run it with molded-in headlight lids and ditch their 6lb-per-side headlight buckets/motors.

superslow 09-05-2009 04:14 AM

Do that in FRP for 200ish for NB and I will buy it tomorrow as well....

Savington 09-05-2009 05:48 AM

nobody cares about your crappy NB, I suggest you wreck it, take all your parts and your engine, and buy a 90 shell. Shave 200lbs and join the gentleman's club.

triple88a 09-05-2009 09:09 AM

wow looks like Savington has a thing for those barn doors :)

They should have measured the hoods with those puppies up, i bet ya it would have been VERY different

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-05-2009 10:47 AM

http://to4r.com/nils/DC_evo_hood.jpg

superslow 09-05-2009 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 450808)
nobody cares about your crappy NB, I suggest you wreck it, take all your parts and your engine, and buy a 90 shell. Shave 200lbs and join the gentleman's club.

Haha. It's common to envy the better chassis. The rollbar is in now. Thanks.

cueball1 09-05-2009 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 450796)
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...n/DSC_2496.jpg

Make this, in FRP, for $200ish, without headlight lids, and I will buy one tomorrow.

Mold it without headlights, but leave the little lines in. If someone wants headlights, they buy a scoop and stick it on their stock hood. If they want it molded in, they cut the headlight lids out and use it. If they want to fuck tens, they run it with molded-in headlight lids and ditch their 6lb-per-side headlight buckets/motors.


That's the GV lid I've wanted all along. Why the hell hasn't someone knocked this off yet?!?

When a car is track only like Savington's the barn doors are useless. The lamps, motors and hardware is all dead weight to get rid of.

Looking at that write up at V8 roadster the guy did a good job with research. As he ended up doing, simply installing louvers at the lower pressure area like Aston and Jag is effective.

V8 roaster guy
http://v8roadsters.net/forum/downloa...php?id=104&t=1

Jag xkr
http://www.jaguar-addict.co.uk/acata...xkr-2005-P.jpg

greddymx5 09-05-2009 04:55 PM

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8505/254rpo.jpg
Nice bunper..

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9692/photoqg.jpg
Nice hood!!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4853/stfmx58.jpg
Another

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7052/65085218full.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/307/f702b6f5.jpg
An old buthe motorsport bodykit...



Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 440161)
i want to know where in there hell do i get those headlights, been searching for a while and cant turn anything up.....

does anybody know where i can get em?

IL motorsport...

hustler 09-05-2009 05:29 PM


ironing?



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Bond 09-05-2009 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 450842)

So you want rain to pour on your engine?

Pardon me if you park in the garage.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-05-2009 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 450990)
So you want rain to pour on your engine?

Pardon me if you park in the garage.

I park outside, and the rain wouldnt really bother me, their shouldnt be anything in there prone to rusting

Bond 09-05-2009 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 450991)
I park outside, and the rain wouldnt really bother me, their shouldnt be anything in there prone to rusting

I don't like when my shit gets wet. Personal preference IMO.

y8s 09-05-2009 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 450991)
I park outside, and the rain wouldnt really bother me, their shouldnt be anything in there prone to rusting

there are spark plug boots that can get wet and prevent your car from running...

Full_Tilt_Boogie 09-05-2009 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 451026)
there are spark plug boots that can get wet and prevent your car from running...

I wouldnt wnat the vent that far back lol

icantthink4155 09-06-2009 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by greddymx5 (Post 450953)

While I like that Im assuming its completely useless. Where does the air go?

Reverend Greg 09-06-2009 11:52 AM

+1 on the flat extractor w/o bulge and no barn doors,I got yo' money when they are ready!
-G-

ZX-Tex 09-06-2009 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by icantthink4155 (Post 451109)
While I like that Im assuming its completely useless. Where does the air go?

Unless it is sealed to the engine intake it is worse than useless because it is probably increasing the pressure under the hood.

rharris19 09-11-2009 02:32 AM

Sorry I have been away for a little from this. I just got married and things have been crazy with getting everything planned and then having to go out of town for business right afterward.

I have made some good progress on the hood, but it will still be a few weeks as things at work have picked up a little. I will post up some pictures this next week of what we get done. The scoop is in place, but now we just have to put the putty all around it to make it look good.

superslow 09-11-2009 03:07 AM

Congrats on getting married.

Looking forward to pics. By scoop u mean scoop (wrx/mini/speed3) or extractor (evo)?

rharris19 09-11-2009 03:10 AM

extractor. It will be a lot like the carbontrix extractor vent posted earlier and placed directly behind the radiator.

naarleven 09-11-2009 03:45 AM

Look forward to seeing it.

Congrats on marriage.

elesjuan 09-11-2009 03:51 AM

Sweet!!

Going on Sav's advice, I'm actually thinking you should make the master mold without headlight covers cut, but leave the lines in there. Offer for an extra 20$ or something to "finish" cut the headlight covers out for us with popups.

Actually considering an alternative solution and leaving the headlight covers ON the hood I order...

Savington 09-28-2009 01:11 AM

Bump, reaffirming my commitment to buy one if you make it with the headlight covers molded in and a GarageHundred-style vent.


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