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rharris19 10-15-2009 01:49 AM

Somewhere around $225. Cost on them is around $190 with materials and labor, but I need a little wiggle room with each in case something happens. Not looking to make anything, just a cheap hood.

Just so that I have everything out in the open, there are no warranties expressed or implied with these hoods. I am making these knowing a great deal about fiberglass and its strength, but have never made a hood before. If you want to buy one and don't like it,for whatever reason, there are no returns. I will get all the pictures to help people see the quality of fitment and finish work. Also, I will be sending out a few for reviews before sending them out to everyone else, so that there can be some respected member honest reviews on them. I expect there may be some very minor finish imperfections.

Once again, I would classify this as a track hood that may have minor finish imperfections. Hood pins will be required.

Just to cover my ass. This may turn out completely perfect when i pop the first one out.

gospeed81 10-15-2009 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 468153)
Somewhere around $225. Cost on them is around $190 with materials and labor, but I need a little wiggle room with each in case something happens. Not looking to make anything, just a cheap hood.

Just so that I have everything out in the open, there are no warranties expressed or implied with these hoods. I am making these knowing a great deal about fiberglass and its strength, but have never made a hood before. If you want to buy one and don't like it,for whatever reason, there are no returns. I will get all the pictures to help people see the quality of fitment and finish work. Also, I will be sending out a few for reviews before sending them out to everyone else, so that there can be some respected member honest reviews on them. I expect there may be some very minor finish imperfections.

Once again, I would classify this as a track hood that may have minor finish imperfections. Hood pins will be required.

Just to cover my ass. This may turn out completely perfect when i pop the first one out.


in for beta testing....

seraph 10-15-2009 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 468153)
Somewhere around $225. Cost on them is around $190 with materials and labor, but I need a little wiggle room with each in case something happens. Not looking to make anything, just a cheap hood.

So this means free shipping?! :laugh:

rharris19 10-15-2009 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by seraph (Post 468246)
So this means free shipping?! :laugh:


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 467754)
Shipping should cost around $100 depending on where you live. My fedex freight account is only set up for business to business shipping. It cost substantially more to ship to a residence.

From 2 Pages ago

Cspence 10-15-2009 04:48 PM

Getting anxious for some pics!

albumleaf 10-15-2009 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 468279)
From 2 Pages ago

What is a sarcasm?

ZX-Tex 10-15-2009 05:01 PM

Also in for beta testing. Conveniently located not too far to the West of your location.

rharris19 10-15-2009 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 468619)
Also in for beta testing. Conveniently located not too far to the West of your location.

Strong Possibility. I may have one or two done by the time i go to TWS on the 30th of october, but unsure. Things are more managable here now, but can pick up again at any second.

Newbsauce 10-15-2009 05:55 PM

I'm just glad to see this is finally coming to be. I'm sick to death of my damn erebuni.

ZX-Tex 10-15-2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 468628)
Strong Possibility. I may have one or two done by the time i go to TWS on the 30th of october, but unsure. Things are more managable here now, but can pick up again at any second.

OK I'll try to make it though I am not sure I can make Oct 30. I still have a lot to do on the LS1 car and that is the one I would want the extractor hood for. The turbo car is a NB anyway.

rharris19 10-15-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 468657)
OK I'll try to make it though I am not sure I can make Oct 30. I still have a lot to do on the LS1 car and that is the one I would want the extractor hood for. The turbo car is a NB anyway.

How is hood clearance in that area? This will stick down about 1/2-1" in the middle. Basically follow the top of the headlight lines and that is where it will stick down.

ZX-Tex 10-15-2009 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 468677)
How is hood clearance in that area? This will stick down about 1/2-1" in the middle. Basically follow the top of the headlight lines and that is where it will stick down.

Good point. I'll have to look at that actually. The problem is not so much the engine itself, but the throttle body. It is front and center, and high up on the engine, and has a large inlet. In fact there is an immediate 90 deg silicone coupling right at the inlet to the throttle body and it barely clears the radiator. Actually it rubs on it a tiny bit. (The current air induction plumbing is lame IMO, and I am going to change it, though as you can see there is not much room to work with).

The front of the radiator is in the stock NA location. However it is much thicker than stock, and taller.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...MiataFS012.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...1/Clean009.jpg

3B'dB3 10-15-2009 08:25 PM

Im still interested, but Im sure the R&D might take a bit longer.
Maybe in the spring?

triple88a 10-15-2009 08:58 PM

ZX-Tex you take off the throttle body from the engine and you make a 90 degree bend and then you mount the throttle body on there.

This will give you A LOT of room at the radiator. about 2 extra inches maybe even more and you're not going to need that 90 degree rubber bend.

Cspence 10-17-2009 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 467628)
It will still have the bump in the middle. I will post up some pictures either tomorrow or Friday when we pop out the mold.

Curious to see how the hood is coming along...the one cell phone pic just isn't cutting it :facepalm:


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 467567)
I am making the mold first for the non molded one then making the mold for the molded one after that. That way the non molded has a good fit and not just a cut out fit.

Since I am making two molds, would you guys with the molded in lights like it if the hood was just smooth and no headlight lines?

Which way did you end up making the mold with the barn doors molded in....this was six to one half dozen to the other for me...I mean having the headlight lines would be neat since if you were to glance at the car from a few feet back it would look like it still had the stock lights...then again having it smooth would look purdy nice...

rharris19 10-18-2009 12:21 AM

Trying to finish the second mold this coming week with the integrated headlight covers.

p51hellfire 10-18-2009 02:35 AM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...rta_smiley.gif

awesomeness!!!

spoolin2bars 10-18-2009 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 440164)
fuck the hood, i want the bumper.

i need that bumper to meet up to my flares. i have tuck'in 99 flares sitting in my garage. look just like the ones on that car.

spoolin2bars 10-18-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 469892)
Trying to finish the second mold this coming week with the integrated headlight covers.

i was gonna ask about molded in headlight covers. i'm in for one of those whenever your ready. and i can pick it up, so no shipping needed.

Cspence 10-18-2009 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 469962)
i have tuck'in 99 flares sitting in my garage.

Bastard! That is if your talkin about the N2 flares....

Reverend Greg 10-18-2009 12:49 PM

rharris-after the hoods look in to molding fender flares,please.
-G-

WonTon 10-18-2009 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Reverend Greg (Post 469982)
rharris-after the hoods look in to molding fender flares,please.
-G-

+1 on the flares!

geared toward the tuckin99's! :bigtu:

triple88a 10-18-2009 12:54 PM

lol or just read the beginning of the thread again. I know tons of ideas on flares were posted :D

Cspence 10-18-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 469986)
+1 on the flares!

geared toward the tuckin99 N2! :bigtu:

+1


http://ojas.net/external/shoot.jpg

triple88a 10-18-2009 01:21 PM

wow you people like these flares?

WonTon 10-18-2009 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 469990)

SEX!!!!!!!!! :jerkit: SKEET!

p51hellfire 10-18-2009 02:12 PM

yey yey yes ye sy ey sye yshysey eys eyse y HELL YES!!!!!! ^+1

WonTon 10-18-2009 02:16 PM

majority says! make flares!!!!!!

do it now! :D

spoolin2bars 10-18-2009 04:21 PM

yup! those are the ones i have. just like the blk. cr car.

ZX-Tex 10-18-2009 04:54 PM

+1 on those flares Cspence posted above. I like them. If I ever run 275 tires on my track car I would need a set.

That being said, I am not planning on doing this anytime soon, unless Nitto comes out with a NT01 in 275-15". Not holding my breath on that one.

elesjuan 10-18-2009 05:24 PM

Shit.

I might have to pass this up now because of hood pins. I refuse to use hood pins....


:cry:

Cspence 10-18-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 470040)
yup! those are the ones i have. just like the blk. cr car.

Where did you get them? How much did you pay? and you wanna sell em?
This is the only place I know that carrys them for the US...Over priced I might add
http://rev9autosport.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=115


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 470062)
Shit.

I might have to pass this up now because of hood pins. I refuse to use hood pins....


:cry:


whats wrong with aero catches??

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Reverend Greg 10-18-2009 07:56 PM

Flares at the same price point and you will sell the fudge aout of them.
-G-

Cspence 10-18-2009 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by Reverend Greg (Post 470130)
Flares at the same price point and you will sell the fudge aout of them.
-G-

Same price point as the hood right? cuz the ones at rev9 ($775+shipping) is simply TOO much...If these could be made and sold for around $300+shipping they'd sell like hot cakes. I know I would be the first in line!

albumleaf 10-18-2009 09:06 PM

I don't see the point for flares. Autokonexion already has fiberglass widened fenders for sale, and there's a gamut of rear flares available to begin with.

(Or the Autokonexion flares for $285 shipped)

ZX-Tex 10-18-2009 09:17 PM

From what I can tell, the flares that cspence posted are much larger than the autokonexion ones, and better looking IMO.

elesjuan 10-18-2009 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 470127)

whats wrong with aero catches??

They add $95.00 to the total cost of something which is turning out more expensive now that I'm really considering it..
$325.00 for hood shipped
$95.00 Catches
Cutting holes in my $325.00 hood
$200.00 - $500.00 to have hood painted...

On the low side that hood is gonna cost around $620.00?

Cspence 10-18-2009 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 470159)
I don't see the point for flares. Autokonexion already has fiberglass widened fenders for sale, and there's a gamut of rear flares available to begin with.

(Or the Autokonexion flares for $285 shipped)

Don't mean to keep cluttering this thread up with this stuff...but just wanted to throw up a pic for ease of comparison:

AutoKonexion N2 Flare ($500+155 Shipping)
Autokonexion
http://autokonexion.com/images/image...8de5cabdfb6aa5

No comparison to these IMHO (REV9 Tuckin99 N2 Flares $775+Shipping)
http://rev9autosport.com/shop/images/1152.jpg

http://rev9autosport.com/shop/images/1159.jpg

http://rev9autosport.com/shop/images/1158.jpg

ZX-Tex 10-18-2009 09:43 PM

^^^ Ahh OK nevermind. For some reason when I visited the Autok site the N2 version image did not come up. Those are just fine and the price is right.

albumleaf 10-18-2009 10:45 PM

The thing that sucks about the AK flares is that the front ones require that retarded lip that fits horribly. I'd much prefer the wide fenders in the front and some flares in the back.

And IMHO, the Tuckin ones look nicer, but since when is this beautypageant.net :P

Cspence 10-18-2009 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 470179)
They add $95.00 to the total cost of something which is turning out more expensive now that I'm really considering it..
$325.00 for hood shipped
$95.00 Catches
Cutting holes in my $325.00 hood
$200.00 - $500.00 to have hood painted...

On the low side that hood is gonna cost around $620.00?

Paint is over-rated..:laugh:

WonTon 10-18-2009 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 470156)
Same price point as the hood right? cuz the ones at rev9 ($775+shipping) is simply TOO much...If these could be made and sold for around $300+shipping they'd sell like hot cakes. I know I would be the first in line!


id be second behind you! id punch a baby in the face for a set! (not literally) but the only other place i have seen selling the flares is Japanparts.com - Mail order from Japan directly|JDM Parts,Performance Auto Parts,for Subaru, Mazda,Mitsubishi,Honda,Nissan,Toyota car and if im not mistaken there 99's are a lil over $800 before shipping!

WonTon 10-18-2009 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 470203)
Paint is over-rated..:laugh:

rattlecan FTW!

spoolin2bars 10-18-2009 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=Cspence;470127]Where did you get them? How much did you pay? and you wanna sell em?
This is the only place I know that carrys them for the US...Over priced I might add
REV9 Autosport

bought them when i bought my car. had to pay separately for them since my buddy had just spent $850 plus shipping! this was probably 2.5 years ago. anyway, if i sold them i would have to get $600. not sure yet, they have been sitting here though. i paid $750 2 years ago.

and yeah, the fitment between these and those a.konexion ones are on totally different levels. these fit like factory pieces.

Cspence 10-18-2009 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 470204)
the only other place i have seen selling the flares is Japanparts.com - Mail order from Japan directly|JDM Parts,Performance Auto Parts,for Subaru, Mazda,Mitsubishi,Honda,Nissan,Toyota car and if im not mistaken there 99's are a lil over $800 before shipping!

Yeah...$817 :facepalm:
japanparts.com : PARTS DATABASE

On the bright side, at least we have the ability to get them....I thought for a while these were damn near impossible to get in the states...

Cspence 10-18-2009 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 470211)
if i sold them i would have to get $600. not sure yet, they have been sitting here though. i paid $750 2 years ago.

and yeah, the fitment between these and those a.konexion ones are on totally different levels. these fit like factory pieces.

Keep me in mind if you decide to part with them...

rharris19 10-18-2009 11:05 PM

No real desire to make flares unless I straight up copied another flare set. It would be a pain in the ass to make it symmetrical and look good.

Plus, I couldn't do it in the same price=cost to make fashion that I doing the hoods right now.

WonTon 10-18-2009 11:07 PM

yeh same here. i had only seen pics of them for a while! then i seen the two sites they were for sale on, then i seen the price tag and my wallet hid itself for a few hours! :lol:

WonTon 10-18-2009 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 470221)
No real desire to make flares unless I straight up copied another flare set. It would be a pain in the ass to make it symmetrical and look good.

Plus, I couldn't do it in the same price=cost to make fashion that I doing the hoods right now.

:cry:

p51hellfire 10-18-2009 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 470221)
No real desire to make flares unless I straight up copied another flare set. It would be a pain in the ass to make it symmetrical and look good.

Plus, I couldn't do it in the same price=cost to make fashion that I doing the hoods right now.

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Cspence 10-18-2009 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 470221)
No real desire to make flares unless I straight up copied another flare set. It would be a pain in the ass to make it symmetrical and look good.

Plus, I couldn't do it in the same price=cost to make fashion that I doing the hoods right now.

Damn...I was hoping you were going to say if we got enough people together that you'd buy a real set and knock em off...you may be able to make enough money to make it worth while if there were a few of us commited to buy. Figure your expenses would consist of $900 for a real set + Mold charges (No idea on cost, but imagine it can't be that bad for you if your doing the hood one)....at $300-$400 a clip, it would'nt take long to break even and/or turn a decent margin ;)

rharris19 10-18-2009 11:20 PM

I will shamlessly copy a set of flares, but I am not paying $900 for the set. Too much of a risk unless a bunch of people really wanted them. We will see what people think of my work with the fiberglass hoods and go from there. Making 4 different molds is kind of a pain in the ass. Takes a fair amount of time ot make sure you get all the little details in the molds.

If only there was a member that had a set laying around that would let me copy them.....................

elesjuan 10-19-2009 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 470203)
Paint is over-rated..:laugh:

Yeah, if the part is carbon fiber.

WonTon 10-19-2009 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 470234)
I will shamlessly copy a set of flares, but I am not paying $900 for the set. Too much of a risk unless a bunch of people really wanted them. We will see what people think of my work with the fiberglass hoods and go from there. Making 4 different molds is kind of a pain in the ass. Takes a fair amount of time ot make sure you get all the little details in the molds.

If only there was a member that had a set laying around that would let me copy them.....................

dude, if you seriously will make flares i would send you the money for my set before there even made!

the real set is like 900 bucks! and if you get at least 4 committed buyers to send you the money for a set before hand, that would cover the cost of the originals and the molding cost..........then its a snowball effect from there! whenever sombody wants a set make it!

rharris19 10-19-2009 12:56 AM

IF I did start making flares, I wouldn't take any money until I actually start making them. Also, it won't be for atleast a couple months.

superslow 10-19-2009 01:35 AM

After the NB hood right?

rharris19 10-19-2009 08:54 AM

I don't have an NB, so it would be kind of hard to make an NB hood.

RotorNutFD3S 10-19-2009 09:14 AM

I support the idea of Tuckin99 N2 replicas. :) Have wanted them for a couple of years, but like others, cannot justify almost a grand to get them.

WonTon 10-19-2009 11:02 AM

woooot tuckin99 band wagon!!!!! :D

spoolin2bars 10-19-2009 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 470234)
I will shamlessly copy a set of flares, but I am not paying $900 for the set. Too much of a risk unless a bunch of people really wanted them. We will see what people think of my work with the fiberglass hoods and go from there. Making 4 different molds is kind of a pain in the ass. Takes a fair amount of time ot make sure you get all the little details in the molds.

If only there was a member that had a set laying around that would let me copy them.....................

maybe if there was a deal on a hood made?.........................someone that had them laying around could loan them out.........................? maybe.......lol


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