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Old 04-02-2010, 03:13 PM
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spoon feed him your **** too
I would, but I'm still trying to iron the wrinkles out of it.
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I'm tempted to try and find a S2000 shell, put a BP turbo setup in it, and then go post my build in hondatech.
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may as well convert it to fwd. don't half *** the fail.
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Full fail would be an NSX and drop a 3.8L GM v6 in it.
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Originally Posted by weemanch
this was on a smaller engine car and a hy 35( 9cm2 hot side) with a hx35 cold side. didn't spool that bad 5k full spool(high 2*'s psi).

A 12cm HX35 with a properly designed split scroll manifold will spool faster than a hy35. I have logs and dyno sheets to prove this.

Also, it is a bad idea to get turbo tech from honduh boyz. There is no sense in running a large turbo on a small engine at low (read 6-8psi) boost levels. We run smaller turbos because they offer the power that we want and also have a very fast spool giving a broader powerband.
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You bitches ain't got ****. I'm spooled to 100 kPa before I even turn the key.
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Originally Posted by Drewkeen
A 12cm HX35 with a properly designed split scroll manifold will spool faster than a hy35. I have logs and dyno sheets to prove this.

Also, it is a bad idea to get turbo tech from honduh boyz. There is no sense in running a large turbo on a small engine at low (read 6-8psi) boost levels. We run smaller turbos because they offer the power that we want and also have a very fast spool giving a broader powerband.
If you cant tune for **** or have a setup that cant handle any real IAT increase then you cheapest bet is a slow lazy turbo with high efficiency and a low pressure ratio.

I feel bad for the Honda guys who know WTF they are doing. It must be like the experience of a MENSA member at a Raiders game.

It would be pretty awesome if Miatas had a B or K series engine stock.
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cueball1
Full fail would be an NSX and drop a 3.8L GM v6 in it.
Ha! I saw a beautiful '32 Ford coupe hot rod last night at a car cruise like this:


When I got close I saw that had a GM 3.8 V6 and a carburetor. I cried out in anguish and tore my robes then put ashes on my head.
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
I feel bad for the Honda guys who know WTF they are doing. It must be like the experience of a MENSA member at a Raiders game.

It would be pretty awesome if Miatas had a B or K series engine stock.
I'd say that proportion of one to a football stadium full is about right when it comes to knowledgeable Honda guys.

I can image we'd be just like em if we had the B & K motors in our cars. Every other idiot putting out 400-500hp with huge laggy turbos ruining the driveability and character of the Miata. Faak. One reason for the higher percentage of knowledge and thoughtfulness on this forum is it takes work to make power with the Mazda BP.









I really wish we could make easy power like those damn honda motors do though.
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Old 04-02-2010, 06:31 PM
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Thats a really good point, I never thought of it that way. Looking at it that way now, your dead-on that these cars would have ended up the exact same way.

The 3800 is OK if it has turbos on it. The GNs are sweet IMHO. If the Miata engine bay was limited by length instead of width a 3800 would be an awesome option.

For a 3 window high boy, its...not what I would go with......
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I have a grand prix with a 3.1 and a blown turbo, the miata would have that if at all possible, but the turbo mounts on the back of the engine. Fak. To much **** would have to happen for it to work.
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Originally Posted by weemanch
okay i was wondering what are the weaker links of the miata motor/driveline? but i am asking before i buy a miata so i know what i can expect.i would eventually plan on going turbo with the car as well. i also was wondering from what little i have looked around so far why everyone's going with such a small turbo(disco potato), i am use to seeing honda's that are running holsets, so that turbo is way tiny then your average holset. but i went and test drove a nice little NA miata with the 1.8L(1996) which seemed like it could be a fun car with more power.
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:23 PM
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Hey OP everyone's just ******* with you. Three years ago I made 400 torques in a 1.6 stock everything. A lot of nitrous though. A 1.8 should be no problem. Post a video so we can see the end product of your build. Good luck!
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