miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
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And because it's fun and gets people riled up.
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<br />And frankly what else do you compare the ND to? The NC pales in comparison, and the NA/B are great cars but not even close in terms of refinement. All other convertibles on the market are big heavy things compared to these two.
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<br />Biggest reason I compare them is because of what Aidan posted above. After taking an ND Miata around a mini autocross course I started texting my regional dealer rep asking him when it will be eligible for E Plan
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<br />And frankly what else do you compare the ND to? The NC pales in comparison, and the NA/B are great cars but not even close in terms of refinement. All other convertibles on the market are big heavy things compared to these two.
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<br />Biggest reason I compare them is because of what Aidan posted above. After taking an ND Miata around a mini autocross course I started texting my regional dealer rep asking him when it will be eligible for E Plan
#1625
It was bear just finding a manual in any color or model. When I found the manual GT in one of my color choices, I snapped it up sight unseen. Dealer was surprised I didn't want to even test drive it. "Just let me buy it first!"
The folks at Mazdaspeed tried to get me an S-Plan deal but every dealer said "you're kidding right?". I'll be surprised if any vendor or specialty shop got a dollar car or even a discount. Now in 6 months, we could have all gotten the cool guy deal, but none of us could wait that long to begin ah, voiding the warranty.
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<br />Indeed you are mistaken on both counts. As Emilio stated, they paid full price and frankly that's quite good considering most dealers are sticking to their varying markups.
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<br />Even aside from that, EPlan is extremely good pricing. You're thinking of SPlan which is basically invoice. EPlan is 4% BELOW dealer invoice.
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<p>Yup, only employees and immediate family of employees. Sometimes (like now) extended family of employees.</p><p>Truth is though, on some models I already sell them for EPlan or below. That's what I get for being an internet *****.</p>
#1632
We're building two different bars for the ND -
1. Street oriented bar which retains full interior and soft top.
This bar will only require minor trimming on the plastics in a similar fashion to the NA / NB bars that we sell.
The biggest constraint here is the soft top as it severely limits the height and width, but even with the roll bar being relatively small it is still a huge upgrade to the stock Aluminum hoops (which I can flex by hand... WTF..).
This bar will have a harness bar integrated into the structure as well retaining the OEM seat belts (untouched).
This bar is already in the works, we have the Goodwin racing car torn apart here and we've been working on our prototype for a few days now.
Pics coming soon!
1. Street oriented bar which retains full interior and soft top.
This bar will only require minor trimming on the plastics in a similar fashion to the NA / NB bars that we sell.
The biggest constraint here is the soft top as it severely limits the height and width, but even with the roll bar being relatively small it is still a huge upgrade to the stock Aluminum hoops (which I can flex by hand... WTF..).
This bar will have a harness bar integrated into the structure as well retaining the OEM seat belts (untouched).
This bar is already in the works, we have the Goodwin racing car torn apart here and we've been working on our prototype for a few days now.
Pics coming soon!
I can now confirm that both models of the Blackbird Fabworx bars for the ND are going to be SCCA Legal!
Yep, including the street oriented setup which keeps the soft top.
For those who are not in the know, making an SCCA legal bar that will allow the Z fold top to to come down all the way is VERY tricky.
Very happy about that
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Big news of the day -
I can now confirm that both models of the Blackbird Fabworx bars for the ND are going to be SCCA Legal!
Yep, including the street oriented setup which keeps the soft top.
For those who are not in the know, making an SCCA legal bar that will allow the Z fold top to to come down all the way is VERY tricky.
Very happy about that
I can now confirm that both models of the Blackbird Fabworx bars for the ND are going to be SCCA Legal!
Yep, including the street oriented setup which keeps the soft top.
For those who are not in the know, making an SCCA legal bar that will allow the Z fold top to to come down all the way is VERY tricky.
Very happy about that
#1638
When the NA first hit back in '90, dealers weer gouging $3-5K over sticker. A friend went out into the desert, got his base package car under sticker the week they hit the dealers.
I tried that myself, searching a 500 mile radius. The result? No manuals. Not one. I found a manual and the dealer up the street, didn't haggle, dealer didn't mark it up and I consider that fortuitous.
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<p>For what it's worth, I'm sure I could sell one for below MSRP because internet *****. But we certainly aren't just offering/advertising them that way... and so far all we have is automatics.</p>