Msm Nc
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From: atlanta-ish
Just heard, and on VERY good authority, that Mazda indeed plans to release the MSM NC, and will do so by end of the year. It's planned to have the MS3's turbo 2.3 and produces ~250 whp (the same motor in the MS3 has an easy upgrade path to >300). Weight wet is going to be about 2600lbs. Estimated to start around 28k MSRP vs the base car starting around 24K.
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From: atlanta-ish
Too heavy, compared to what--your 93? Imposed safety regs won't allow a car to be 2200 lbs wet again. 
Anyway, I'm excited to see a Miata that will make 300whp, essentially stock.

Anyway, I'm excited to see a Miata that will make 300whp, essentially stock.
Yes- too heavy compared to my '93.
I'd think one could at least get the car down a few hundred pounds with fewer extra bits (A/C, PS, etc).
I just find it unfortunate that the new Miatas are 20% heavier than the NA cars.
I'd think one could at least get the car down a few hundred pounds with fewer extra bits (A/C, PS, etc).
I just find it unfortunate that the new Miatas are 20% heavier than the NA cars.
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Thank the world's governments for the bloat. Side impact standards, pedestrian safety standards, and all that bull ****.
I'm excited to see this thing...I wonder how good it will look?
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Not that I am headed down this path, but I think a big question here is how much power will it make when someone figures out how to install a parallel ECU and retune a la the current MSM and the Mazdaspeed3? Assuming at least a 25% gain, that would be over 300 HP.
But for the kind of money it would take to buy the new MSM, and do all this, I could have a lot more fun with my current car
But for the kind of money it would take to buy the new MSM, and do all this, I could have a lot more fun with my current car
Sweet- 2600lbs with 250-300hp is a good combo. Factory reliability is key, too.
Hopefully Mazda does it right this time, then backs it with Mazdaspeed parts that you can add on or swap out.
Hopefully Mazda does it right this time, then backs it with Mazdaspeed parts that you can add on or swap out.
The customer base mazda is selling to does not want a car with no AC/PS/ etc. There are only a hand full of people that put speed and performace over comfort and amenities.







