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Double O 86 07-31-2014 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 1153238)
^ Hahaha that gave me a good laugh

So where are the props? :hustler:

ThePass 07-31-2014 03:42 PM

Haha I always forget about the props feature. You've been propped sir.

-Ryan

VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC 07-31-2014 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 1153225)
Despite having my own opinions, I won't stoop to picking apart details of what I don't like about a competitor's product to boost the appeal of my own.

"It cracks me up a little.. setting a part intended for an s2000 on a different car, snapping a pic of it roughly in the position others said it should go, and then typing up a blerb on the webpage for the 'new' product does not a 'new developed' product make."

I was done with this thread until you guys continue on bashing me, long after I stopped posting. As long as you and your minions continue to bash someone they don't even know, who has 10 years more experience and 50 more proven products available than you have now, I will continue to post my views.

I find it humorous that there are folks here that would trust "your" product (which is a direct copy of MY product) to perform better than a product from the person who created the design in the first place. Kinda ironic......or something. ;)

I guess it must just be because I'm not into Miatas.....even though I own one somehow?

concealer404 07-31-2014 04:00 PM

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rwyatt365 07-31-2014 04:11 PM

^^ This...

Double O 86 07-31-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC (Post 1153248)
I will continue to post my views.

Sell your Miata, you whiny bitch.
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VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC 07-31-2014 06:14 PM

Quite a collection of mature adults we have here. Is there a Big Boy section to this forum where adults can have a serious discussion?

concealer404 07-31-2014 06:22 PM

Yeah. You're in it. The kid's table is the Meet and Great section. Might want to go introduce yourself.

EErockMiata 07-31-2014 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC (Post 1153272)
Quite a collection of mature adults we have here. Is there a Big Boy section to this forum where adults can have a serious discussion?

You're asking if a forum with a pink theme, a cat's head in a turbo as the logged in icon and smilie's like this :brain::dealwithit::loser::party::pitlab: has a mature section?

I know... pay vendor fees to push your shit and find out. Otherwise GTFO!!! :giggle:

fail wagon 07-31-2014 08:37 PM

I'm in for a set for an NA. Can't wait

TurboTim 07-31-2014 10:32 PM

Imma market a set of louvers called zraptor styleworkz and sell them for $99. Universal custom fit.

I thought it was quite clever when I first saw vraptors shipped flat louvers I must say.

Monk 07-31-2014 11:13 PM

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Hey, this guy copied your design too! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1406862809
Oh wait, he's been dead for 100 fucking years.
Go away.

Dustin1824 08-01-2014 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC (Post 1153215)
Not sure what other sophisticated "testing" is required? Either the louvers work to lower underhood temps, or they don't. Blisters on my fingers vs ambient temp hatch surface.

You can have all of the fancy sensors and data you want, but the bottom line is that all those pressures and measurements and data points you spent hours or days logging on a virgin hood all go away as soon as you cut a hole in it.

Why are you still posting here?:facepalm:

Lowering underhood temps is fine and all, but cooling off a hatch is NOT THE INTENDED purpose. :crx:

THE INTENDED PURPOSE IS TO CREATE A LARGER PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL TO INCREASE FLOW THROUGH ALL OF THE FRIGGIN HEAT EXCHANGERS!!!

That includes the radiator, and possibly oil cooler and intercooler. Not many cars suffer catastrophic failure due to a hatch being too hot, or underhood temps being too high. Now a mechanical failure because of an oil cooler or radiator that wasn't doing its job...that actually happens.

You stand behind your products so hardcore, you actually install them for product photos. Wait...:bowrofl:

If the blue Miata is yours, the only thing you have shown is you won't install your product on your own car :rofl:


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 1153225)
I am working on details for the NB version today :)

Earlier, I looked at my hood and thought "What makes you think I won't cut you?" :party:

krissetsfire 08-01-2014 02:06 AM

I`m more irritated that a vendor that is not a sponsor has been posting links to their own site and product. Where are the mods to delete those posts and enforce the rules? Also has no intro thread and is thread crapping.

I don't care who stole what or all that other shit. Don't bring your shit covered shoes into my house when you were clearly asked to take your f`ing shoes off.

ThePass 08-01-2014 02:48 AM

Let's steer things back on track here... :skid:

GeneSplicer 08-01-2014 09:16 AM

Can't wait to see the reaction when you start making vents for the GTM crowd!

Ryan_G 08-01-2014 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by krissetsfire (Post 1153347)
I`m more irritated that a vendor that is not a sponsor has been posting links to their own site and product. Where are the mods to delete those posts and enforce the rules? Also has no intro thread and is thread crapping.

I don't care who stole what or all that other shit. Don't bring your shit covered shoes into my house when you were clearly asked to take your f`ing shoes off.

All of his posts were deleted. He only linked to his own product once and it wasn't for a miata. A forum member is the one who linked to his miata specific louver.

VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC 08-01-2014 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Dustin1824 (Post 1153344)
Why are you still posting here?:facepalm:

Lowering underhood temps is fine and all, but cooling off a hatch is NOT THE INTENDED purpose. :crx:

THE INTENDED PURPOSE IS TO CREATE A LARGER PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL TO INCREASE FLOW THROUGH ALL OF THE FRIGGIN HEAT EXCHANGERS!!!

That includes the radiator, and possibly oil cooler and intercooler. Not many cars suffer catastrophic failure due to a hatch being too hot, or underhood temps being too high. Now a mechanical failure because of an oil cooler or radiator that wasn't doing its job...that actually happens.

You stand behind your products so hardcore, you actually install them for product photos. Wait...:bowrofl:

If the blue Miata is yours, the only thing you have shown is you won't install your product on your own car :rofl:



Earlier, I looked at my hood and thought "What makes you think I won't cut you?" :party:

I don't intend to install them in my own car because I don't race that car and have no intentions of doing so. I have no overheating issues with that car. It's bone stock, and I intend to keep it that way.

As for your twisted logic on engine bay heat.....I thought the purpose was to get HEAT away from where you don't want the HEAT to be? In the example I gave above, several people were having problems grenading their $10,000 transaxles. Why? Because the transaxle is air-cooled. If you have a transaxle processing 700+hp, it generates lots of heat. It's very tough to get that heat to transfer OUT of the transaxle case if the air surrounding the transaxle is 300 degrees....right? The only way the hatch can get so hot as to burn your fingers if if the inside of the engine bay is hot enough to heat the hatch to those temps, right? If you bring the temps in the engine bay down to closer to ambient temps, then the transaxle is surrounded by COOLER air than temp of the oil inside the transaxle, right? And if there is a temperature difference, then heat can transfer OUT of the transaxle....which resulted in a 120 degree DROP in transaxle oil temp......just by lowering the temperatures in the engine bay. And your transaxle lasts a heck of a lot longer when it's running at 180 degrees internally instead of 300.

I know this might all sound really complicated, but that is generally the purpose behind installing louvers......to reduce the temperature of something that is running too hot, right? To create a path for the heat to escape so you can allow cooler air to replace the hot air that previously occupied that same space? Maybe I'm all wrong here, but as long as I keep getting the results I wanted (significantly reduced temps of engine bay components) I guess I'll just keep doing things wrong. Why change what works?

Leafy 08-01-2014 10:55 AM

I dont care how hot the air in the engine bay is, as long as its not hot enough to melt the electrical connectors and wiring. I care about increasing air flow through the heat ex-changers in the front of the car by increasing the delta P across them. If I just wanted to make it cooler in the engine bay I'd run turn signal intakes and hood risers.

Double O 86 08-01-2014 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by VRaptor SpeedWorks, LLC (Post 1153272)
Quite a collection of mature adults we have here. Is there a Big Boy section to this forum where adults can have a serious discussion?

Why are you wasting your time on this immature website forum? Don't you have Big Boy things to do? Like providing for your family? :loser:

Step away from the keyboard, start acting like a grownup, and get back to work. Leave all this tomfoolery to the rest of us 'mature adults'. :fawk:


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