General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Problem with racing seats

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-17-2008, 02:47 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Dark Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 403
Total Cats: -1
Default Problem with racing seats

I bought 2 supposely new Momo Start of Ebay not long ago and now I'm trying to install them and I just saw that some of the treads are stripped.... Like the 2 front holes of one seat and 1 front of the other.... What do I do now? Is piercing and tapping other holes in the fiberglass is safe or should I trow my 2 seats in the garbage?
Dark Wanderer is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 02:58 PM
  #2  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,490
Total Cats: 4,079
Default

you can send them to me instead....
Braineack is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:09 PM
  #3  
Elite Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Zabac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point NC
Posts: 4,850
Total Cats: 8
Default

Are you serious? Dude, you are bad luck!!!
How many things did you get screwed over on so far?
See if you can get a refund in full...if not, I am sure something can be done.
Zabac is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:15 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Dark Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 403
Total Cats: -1
Default

Yeah I'm so unlucky.... The only thing I'm affraid is that the fiberglass shatters when piercing it. Or when braking hard that the bolt strip the fb and the seats come throught the windshield....

For the refund... I already left a good comment on ebay and it wasn't a compagny....
Dark Wanderer is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:19 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
iTrader: (22)
 
keinayo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 491
Total Cats: 0
Default

did you pay with paypal? You can file a claim.
keinayo is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:24 PM
  #6  
Elite Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Zabac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point NC
Posts: 4,850
Total Cats: 8
Default

ah ****!!!!
I wish I knew what to tell you man, but this is not something I ever came across.
I would assume that the bolt holes have to be reinforced, can you take pics of the area and maybe we can all chip in our thoughts after seeing it...
Zabac is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:25 PM
  #7  
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
jayc72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,908
Total Cats: 1
Default

Can you re-tap the existing hole for a larger bolt?

Pictures would help ...
jayc72 is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:42 PM
  #8  
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,481
Default

dont know how helpful this is, but you can always buy some fiberglass/resin or something similar, fill the hole's, then redrill and re-thread new holes
18psi is offline  
Old 07-17-2008, 03:55 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
reddroptop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 789
Total Cats: 1
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
dont know how helpful this is, but you can always buy some fiberglass/resin or something similar, fill the hole's, then redrill and re-thread new holes
This is what I was thinking about, however, Seats are one of the most important safety items period.

Do you really want to risk yourself with a fixed (as in once fubar'd, not fixed back) seat?
reddroptop is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 01:35 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Dark Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 403
Total Cats: -1
Thumbs down

Originally Posted by jayc72
Can you re-tap the existing hole for a larger bolt?

Pictures would help ...
That's what I'm thinking about. Right now it's something like M8X1.25 (anyway, the stock bolt works) and in the holes that are stripped I can make an In and Out with the bolt.

Since the centerline of holes to holes in width and lenght is smaller than the rail I think I will simply pierce and tap something like 5/16X18 (it's almost the same thing as the M8) But I'm don't know if it's SAFE?

I'll try to take pictures tomorrow but I can't promise good ones because the cover of the seat... well... almost cover the holes too
Dark Wanderer is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 01:51 AM
  #11  
Elite Member
iTrader: (39)
 
Zabac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point NC
Posts: 4,850
Total Cats: 8
Default

I would just assume that the boltholes in the seat have to be a regular nut fiberglassed in please or welded to a metal structure that is altogether fiberglassed in, and if that is the case, I don't see how it would be unsafe to tap it to accept a thicker bolt, it should be safer in my opinion.
Zabac is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 09:29 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Machismo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Granbury, TX.
Posts: 1,273
Total Cats: 1
Default

Get Fubard nut out and insert a T-bolt in its place. Use a washer both sides of surface twice the diameter of the hole to spread the loads. You will be fine.
Machismo is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 10:39 AM
  #13  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

I would fill the hole with fiberglass, then drill, then put in a metal sleeve and bolt it in with washers. Would probably be stronger than the original.
Faeflora is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 12:13 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Dark Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 403
Total Cats: -1
Default

All your solution seems great but can't be done. There is a metal plate a the bottom of the holes but it's not taped and I assume it's only there so you don't bolt a too long bolt in there and get through the fibreglass and cover. I can't access the other side because of the cover.

I will try to pierce and tap it today. I'm thinking about either fibreglass it or loctite it.

Forgot to mention that the plates seem just under the original holes and don't run entirely through the seats
Dark Wanderer is offline  
Old 07-18-2008, 12:56 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Machismo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Granbury, TX.
Posts: 1,273
Total Cats: 1
Default

That plate is there to also spread the load of forces in an impact so the seat doesn't rip off its mounts. If you have enough padding at the thigh area, you will not even feel the bolt head if you just bolt through from the top. Had this issue w/ a Sparco fighter. I relocated two of the mounting bolts w/o any problems or discomfort. Nothing like cutting up $500 dollar seats, Right?
Just make sure to use big enough cut washers on both sides to spread the loads.
Machismo is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 04:21 PM
Quinn
Cars for sale/trade
6
10-23-2016 07:58 AM
chris101
Miata parts for sale/trade
2
10-09-2015 09:08 AM
mx592
Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain
1
10-01-2015 12:45 AM
skipstr
Miata parts for sale/trade
2
09-28-2015 10:53 PM



Quick Reply: Problem with racing seats



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:27 PM.