Recommend me a sandwich plate (off topice to gauges)
07-14-2010, 10:19 AM
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the http://prosportgauges.com/ has them but i found this site that has the 10% off, covers shipping and from there location to me shipping was also lower http://www.machv.com/prgacopa.html
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07-14-2010, 10:21 AM
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I would not buy those shitbox prosport gauges. VDO are inexpensive and quality, without crazy lighting crap that you may not be able to read in direct sunlight.
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07-14-2010, 10:23 AM
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07-14-2010, 11:01 AM
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I'm using this one
http://prosportgauges.com/oil-filter-adaptor-plate.aspx
http://prosportgauges.com/oil-filter-adaptor-plate.aspx
for the price of 1 omori i got 4 gauges that will work for the time being. i've found post with mixed reviews searching google.
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07-14-2010, 12:33 PM
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I just got a mocal sandwitch plate and I have to say that it is made much nicer than other plates I have used on other cars. The oring sealed fittings make it a much better option than the tapered thread NPT fittings used on most other plates.
Don't worry about the factory oil cooler adding heat from the coolant to the oil. To transfer heat you need a temp difference. As long as the oil is the same temp or hotter than the coolant you will not be taking any heat from the coolant. Most of the time when driving hard your oil temps will be above the coolant temps so you will always be transfering heat to the coolant. The only reason I would not use the coolant cooler is if your coolant system is marginal and removing the heat load could help coolant issues. If that is the case you are better off improving the coolant first.
Don't worry about the factory oil cooler adding heat from the coolant to the oil. To transfer heat you need a temp difference. As long as the oil is the same temp or hotter than the coolant you will not be taking any heat from the coolant. Most of the time when driving hard your oil temps will be above the coolant temps so you will always be transfering heat to the coolant. The only reason I would not use the coolant cooler is if your coolant system is marginal and removing the heat load could help coolant issues. If that is the case you are better off improving the coolant first.
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07-14-2010, 10:23 PM
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The lighting on the gauge was shitty at best, I could barely see the gauges during the day, and they were too bright at night.
It was almost impossible to read them when I was on the track.
I've got a prosport oil temp gauge new in box that I'd never put on any of my cars. If any Dallas guys want it just take it.
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07-14-2010, 11:54 PM
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fine, i'll cancel my order tomorrow.
the vdo site i can't navigate because it's set up shitty and defi are over priced. need boost, water temp, oil temp, and oil press. some one help me out with out being a dick. o wait this is mt.net
the vdo site i can't navigate because it's set up shitty and defi are over priced. need boost, water temp, oil temp, and oil press. some one help me out with out being a dick. o wait this is mt.net
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07-14-2010, 11:59 PM
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You'll like the VDO's, they're reasonably priced, don't look silly, and blend well with your stock gauges.
This is a post I made on another forum back in 2006, but much of it applies to the Miata.
http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-i...up-gauges.html
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Here's some pics of my gauge install on the turbo NX.
The mounting plate comes from www.42draftdesigns.com.
The great thing about this panel is it's designed with a recess for the VDO Vision gauges, so the bezel sits flush with the face of the panel. Very factory!
It's made to snap in to a DIN slot, so you'll need to fabricate some simple brackets to mount it into a B chassis car.
The radio was easier to move than I thought it would be. I just had to cut up the stock mounting brackets and grind them down here and there.
The real bitch was getting the boost gauge installed. I'm tring to keep the car as low profile as possible (stock wheels, side mount intercooler, tinted windows), so I didn't want to have the gauge on the a-pillar, steering wheel, etc, so I sunk it into the stock temperature gauge spot in the cluster.
At first it looked simple, but I wound up having to cut some of the circuit board traces, one of the 8 pin plugs, and I lost one of the light bulbs for the tach. Eventually I worked it all out, and althoug it ain't pretty behind the scenes, I'm happy with the results.
You're going to need some kind of adapter to install the oil pressure sender. On my turbo car, I connected it to a T fitting on the oil feed to the turbocharger. On the VE, I used a Nissport adapter.
Water temp sender goes in the coolant neck on the passenger side of the engine. Nice and simple, no need for any adapter.
Oil temp sender goes on the back side of the oil pan. Epoxy or weld a piece of bar stock to the inside of the pan to give the sender enough threads to grab.
More pictures here
http://picasaweb.google.com/cscarpul...000TurboGauges
Here's the part numbers.
I bought the gauges and adapters from www.egauges.com, they have excellent prices and usually have everything in stock. There are 2 oil pressure senders listed here. Both are 80psi, but *360-009 has a built in 7psi low pressure warning connection, which you can wire to either your stock oil pressure warning light, or to an external one.
The gauge panel and boost gauge tubing kit came from www.42draftdesigns.com
I bought the boost tubing kit there because it has a push-lock fitting for the gauge, and comes with a t-fitting with a built in restrictor.
This is a post I made on another forum back in 2006, but much of it applies to the Miata.
http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-i...up-gauges.html
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Here's some pics of my gauge install on the turbo NX.
The mounting plate comes from www.42draftdesigns.com.
The great thing about this panel is it's designed with a recess for the VDO Vision gauges, so the bezel sits flush with the face of the panel. Very factory!
It's made to snap in to a DIN slot, so you'll need to fabricate some simple brackets to mount it into a B chassis car.
The radio was easier to move than I thought it would be. I just had to cut up the stock mounting brackets and grind them down here and there.
The real bitch was getting the boost gauge installed. I'm tring to keep the car as low profile as possible (stock wheels, side mount intercooler, tinted windows), so I didn't want to have the gauge on the a-pillar, steering wheel, etc, so I sunk it into the stock temperature gauge spot in the cluster.
At first it looked simple, but I wound up having to cut some of the circuit board traces, one of the 8 pin plugs, and I lost one of the light bulbs for the tach. Eventually I worked it all out, and althoug it ain't pretty behind the scenes, I'm happy with the results.
You're going to need some kind of adapter to install the oil pressure sender. On my turbo car, I connected it to a T fitting on the oil feed to the turbocharger. On the VE, I used a Nissport adapter.
Water temp sender goes in the coolant neck on the passenger side of the engine. Nice and simple, no need for any adapter.
Oil temp sender goes on the back side of the oil pan. Epoxy or weld a piece of bar stock to the inside of the pan to give the sender enough threads to grab.
More pictures here
http://picasaweb.google.com/cscarpul...000TurboGauges
Here's the part numbers.
I bought the gauges and adapters from www.egauges.com, they have excellent prices and usually have everything in stock. There are 2 oil pressure senders listed here. Both are 80psi, but *360-009 has a built in 7psi low pressure warning connection, which you can wire to either your stock oil pressure warning light, or to an external one.
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150-121 2 1/16 0-30 In.Hg. 0-25 PSI Turbocharger Vision $30.00 350-104 2 1/16 80 PSI Engine Press. Elec. Vision $25.75 360-009 *Pressure Sender: 0-80 PSI/5 Bar 1/8-27 NPT - 7.0 PSI $33.54 360-003 *Pressure Sender: 0-80 PSI/5 Bar 1/8-27 NPT $23.75 310-105 2 1/16 250F Engine Water Temp. Elec. Vision $25.55 323-095 Temperature Sender: 250F/120C 1/8-27 NPT $6.84 310-106 2 1/16 300F Engine Oil Temp. Elec. Vision $25.55 323-057 Temperature Sender: 300F/150C 1/8-27 NPT $6.14
I bought the boost tubing kit there because it has a push-lock fitting for the gauge, and comes with a t-fitting with a built in restrictor.
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42-023 VW mk4 Triple Gauge Panel $20.00 42-150-851 8' plastic boost tubing kit $12.00
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