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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
Air? You mean steam?
Lol, brainfart. Yes, steam.
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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This all comes back to the faster flow (vs stock) afforded by the electric pump...with faster coolant flow over the CHRA there will less chance of boiling the coolant in this area.
Old Jun 9, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Referencing the graph Joe put up,
the max power point is around 50 li/min @ 0.3 bar of pressure.
That corresponds to a power of 25W.
Assuming motor input power is 8A @ 14V or 96W,
efficiency is 26%.
Seems low but not unbelievable.


BTW I remember the reason for the "fast coolant = overheating" myth - When a t-stat is removed, sometimes the pressure head from the pump was so much it caused the rad cap to vent, leading to overheating.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Interesting article on water pump testing.
Pumps vary in how much cavitation and thus at what temperature it starts:

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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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There are 2 more manufacturers of remote electric water pumps: Meziere, and CSR. I browsed their websites but couldn't find pump curves.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
There are 2 more manufacturers of remote electric water pumps: Meziere, and CSR. I browsed their websites but couldn't find pump curves.
Jason; next time I'm looking for some obscure thing, I'll ask you

Thanks for that info.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Additional manufacturers:

Dedenbear

EMP Stewart (controller included)

Moroso

Proform (no universal pumps- OEM replacement only)


Can't find flow maps on any of these. I tend to dislike Chinachargers for much the same reason.
Old May 8, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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ttt
Old May 8, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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I just read thru this all, nice information overall.

Additional pump for the list:
Pierburg, various sizes but the CWA 200 (OE on some BMW's) is 125 l/min @ 450mbar/6.5psi & 200watts. Can be run ***** out simply or has built-in circuit allowing speed control by a low current PWM signal.


http://www.kspg-ag.de/pdfdoc/kspg_pr...olant_pump.pdf
Old May 8, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Very interesting. Looks like another great project to increase the conplexity, theoretical efficiency, and unreliableness of my car. Will attempt.
Old May 8, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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I wish I would have seen this before I built my system. I just went out and did it to the best of my abilities and the knowledge I had at the time. This was before I ever joined any forum.

One thing I like about his system is the fact that the water is cooled by the radiator before going into the pump. My system pulls hot water from the block, and then pushes water through the radiator and then the head. I wonder if having the hotest water in the pump will shorten the life of it.

I have had no issues so far, so after I make the changes planned, I will report about its reliability.

Also, I built my system before I knew anything about coolant reroutes. That is the reason I want to plumb water to both sides of the head. I am currently pumping water to the front.

Oh, and thanks Jason for pulling this thread from the archives.
Old May 8, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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>dat radiator
>dat intake
>dat lack of a job
peasant
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