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disturbedfan121 01-14-2009 02:13 AM

idk if i've mentioned it but i want one. just not at 750$ lol

emilio700 01-14-2009 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 353166)
idk if i've mentioned it but i want one. just not at 750$ lol

Yah, that's a big pill to swallow on a Miata. The wing on the Miata cost me about $75 off ebay, picked it up locally. Fits into the OGK's theme perfectly.

I'll be stocking the GT200 Miata wing because it's the best Miata wing you can buy, not the cheapest. The stuff from Japan for the Miata is all close but not quite unless you make your own stanchions and mounts.

NA6C-Guy 01-14-2009 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 353146)
Thank you. I did it myself in about 12 hrs...all with vinyl.

Special order, or does someone sell it... :eek5:

m2cupcar 01-14-2009 12:08 PM

Emilio- don't you think adding a splitter to the ISC front spoiler would give you the downforce you need/want on the front end? That spoiler was built to meet the limits of the SCCA's ITA class - thus no splitter and no extension beyond the foremost tip of the bumper.

cueball1 01-14-2009 12:52 PM

This thread has me looking very hard on craigslists in my area for a spare trunk lid and a ricer selling quality wing cheap. Looking for what directions people go to balance the fronts though. DD car I'm limited on what I can do that can't be undone easily at the end of a track day.

How's this cf wing look for $100? Unknown make.

http://images.craigslist.org/3o23p53...da625812f5.jpg

BenR 01-14-2009 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 353336)
This thread has me looking very hard on craigslists in my area for a spare trunk lid and a ricer selling quality wing cheap. Looking for what directions people go to balance the fronts though. DD car I'm limited on what I can do that can't be undone easily at the end of a track day.

How's this cf wing look for $100? Unknown make.

http://images.craigslist.org/3o23p53...da625812f5.jpg




Since it's unknown it may be ricer crap and add signifigant drag, but it's impossible to tell. Looks like a good $100 gamble, I'd try it.

emilio700 01-14-2009 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 353315)
Emilio- don't you think adding a splitter to the ISC front spoiler would give you the downforce you need/want on the front end? That spoiler was built to meet the limits of the SCCA's ITA class - thus no splitter and no extension beyond the foremost tip of the bumper.

Yup. Thought I'd try it sans extension first. Not enough downforce.

The other issue is all the air hitting the front tires. That generates lift and a big chunk of drag. So the next round of mods to the OGK will hopefully include either some spats like William made to shield the tires or a dive plane like canard thingy.

It would also be more effective if the car were lower but I can't get any lower now without getting into ugly geometry issues. The new spindles and control arms will fix that but the protos are still a few weeks away.

cueball1 01-14-2009 06:39 PM

Any thoughts on projects to make the car slipperier like undertrays, ducting, diffusers, vortex generators, etc. in combination with adding downforce?

BenR 01-14-2009 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 353546)
Any thoughts on projects to make the car slipperier like undertrays, ducting, diffusers, vortex generators, etc. in combination with adding downforce?




There are some really good threads about this over on corner-carvers.com if you search a bit.

mazda/nissan 01-14-2009 07:17 PM

how much water do the ratings of "less than 120 mph" or "greater than 120 mph" hold on the APR website?

and I'm already tired of people bitching about their mustangs at corner-carvers

cueball1 01-14-2009 08:12 PM

Corner-carvers . Thanks! I'm checking it out.

Savington 01-15-2009 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by mazda/nissan (Post 353568)
how much water do the ratings of "less than 120 mph" or "greater than 120 mph" hold on the APR website?

and I'm already tired of people bitching about their mustangs at corner-carvers

The GTC-300 is way too big for the Miata.

cueball1 01-15-2009 02:08 PM

The speed ratings seem to break down by Carbon Fiber and Aluminum. The CF's rate 150-180, aluminum are all at 120. Note they don't say maximum speed but highest average speed. I'm wondering if aluminum might fit the avg speeds of Miata's on the track better.

Savington 01-15-2009 02:12 PM

It depends on what they are basing the speed rating off of, though. If it's drag produced, then you want the CF because our aero is shit as is and you want to add as little additional drag as possible when you do the wing.

OTOH, the aluminum is much cheaper, probably.

mazda/nissan 01-15-2009 02:15 PM

hm, 120 avg. would be pretty good for a miata. The GTII's look nice, and the aluminum one doesn't break the bank, I may be able to swing it, assuming it would help with time attack.

Sav. it appears that the aluminum and CF pieces are the same shape (more clearly the CF is all organic looking). The only thing then would be the surface smoothness, which I am sure you could polish the aluminum right?

Savington 01-15-2009 03:29 PM

Can you post pics? APR's site seems to be down.

9671111 01-15-2009 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by tann3r (Post 353014)
Saw these pics over at cr.net, they are tagged slickauto.net. Anyone have anyinfo on the mounts used here?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/...e77c5dd0_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/...46e8705f_o.jpg

I've never liked fitting or the look of that top but damn, that's hot.

Erotomania 01-15-2009 04:51 PM

Who makes that top? is it still in production? Thats the hotness right there! go nicely with my N2 flares in the future

mazda/nissan 01-15-2009 05:02 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Attachment 209070

Attachment 209071

the only difference appears to be where the braces attach to the body of the structure, could there still be a noticeable drag between the 2 materials?

erotomania that top was made by someone on m.net i believe, horrible fitment if I heard correctly, you don't want it (thats a doctored example)

tann3r 01-15-2009 05:07 PM

Is the "Autokonexion" hardtop. Not sure if they are still for sale though.

BTW Autokonexion/slickauto mounted that wing to the rear quarter and were nice enough to show a few pics.

http://www.autokonexion.com/images/tabtuesday%20020.JPG
http://www.autokonexion.com/images/tabtuesday%20014.JPG

Also over at cr.net slickauto has the wing for sale w/ some better pictures.


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