SuperMiata @ 2012 NASA Nationals Mid Ohio - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-02-2012, 01:51 AM   #1
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,326
Total Cats: 1,346
Default SuperMiata @ 2012 NASA Nationals Mid Ohio

NASA National Championships - Mid Ohio
September 6-9, 2012

Wednesday Test n Tune
Thursday TT
Friday TT
Saturday TT & Race qual
Sunday Champ race

There are qualifying races Thurs, Friday but with only 7 PTC cars registered, they're not critical. TT is scored best single run from Thurs, Friday or Saturday. So I need to put a time in each day.

Crusher was loaded up and left this morning, team member Tom Probert driving the rig. I'll fly out Tuesday. Last week I dragged Sonny to CXC Simulations near LAX this morning to get some seat time in iRacing on the Mid Ohio Pro course. I asked him to drive aggressively against me. He did, gently putting me into a wall at one point. Thanks to Chris and the guys at CXC for setting us up. There are a few guys there that are Miata geeks like us. On of the guys was damn fast on the sims, jumped in with Sonny and me for a three way battle. I think I have a good head start on learning the flow of the track in race traffic. The full motion CXC simulators were especially valuable in getting a feel for the frequent mid turn elevation changes which really define Mid Ohio.

I'll be driving Crusher in TTC/PTC. NASA's digital magazine featured me as the favorite so I may have a bit of a target on my back. Crusher, while fast for an N/A Miata, is probably the lowest powered PTC car so I'll have my work cut out on the long straight between T2-T4. The flip side of that is I'll be the lightest and hardest turning in the woods. If often rains there in early September. Crusher is amazing in the wet so my odds improve dramatically if it rains. SM record is a 1:41.5. PTC record set by a Mini at Nationals last year is a 1:38.4. Another PTC local has done a 1:38 in the early August warm up event.

Live from Mid-Ohio via webcast at SpeedcastTV
Live video from SpeedcastTV
Live timing at this link
Event schedule at this link

I'll do my best to update our facebook page via twitter.
Team 949 Racing | Facebook

The other PTC cars entered
Two RX8's
Acura RSX
CRX - NASA marketing guy, Jeremy Croiset
Camaro
Mustang

At CXC Simulations



Last edited by emilio700; 09-19-2012 at 11:26 PM.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2012, 02:17 AM   #2
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

Attached Thumbnails
SuperMiata @ 2012 NASA Nationals Mid Ohio-thunderdome.jpg  
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 01:12 AM   #3
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,326
Total Cats: 1,346
Default

Catching a flight in the am. Crusher is already there scoping things out for me. Nice Crusher.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 10:45 AM   #4
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,284
Total Cats: 178
Default

I am convinced that level of preparation and attention to detail is a big part of your success. Good luck at a very cool track!
Scrappy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 01:05 PM   #5
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
fooger03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 4,133
Total Cats: 188
Default

The first couple times I went to this track, turn 1 was a mindfcuk for me. For those not in-the-know, it's a blind left hander that starts in a tunnel after coming off the front straight. It's a very deceiving increasing-radius turn. The best advice I have received on turn 1 is to be back on the throttle WAYYYY early, apex early, and be WOT well before you come out of the corner. It's always a bit unnerving for me going WOT into the blind corner on 2 wheels, but I started walking away from people as soon as I started doing that.

After coming through thunder valley, turn 11 is another blind left hander that people tend to overbrake for. I've certainly passed far more people in turn 11 than any other single area on this track.

As a motorcycle rider, I know I've got far more room to play on a racetrack than the cars do, but as an SV650 rider, I know what it feels like to have my "doors" blown off halfway down the half-mile-long back straight every single lap by bikes with much higher HP than me, only to completely dominate the other 9/10ths of the track. Good luck, Emilio!
fooger03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #6
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

The RSX is one of our cars. The driver is pretty quick but he doesn't have a lot of experience in FWD cars or at Mid Ohio. He's spent a lot of time this year improving the car.

Croiset's car is very quick, and, the CRX is rediculously fast at Mid Ohio. Last years PTC winner was a Grand AM spec supercharged Mini with the boost turned up.

Good luck, but I'll have to root for my teammate this time...
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2012, 08:04 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Aliso Viejo, CA
Posts: 799
Total Cats: 175
Default

I said good luck in your M.net thread but i feel more comfortable here.

Fwd's seem to be very competitive at the "most competitive track in the us." Some of the honda guys are stupid fast.

I just drove/instructed the SCCA PDX on friday, before their double regional sat/sun. You guys start tomorrow, so there should still be a large amount of rubber laid down. Im not sure if thats good or bad. Mid O is also seal coated over the dry line, which makes rain super slippery.

My car is similar to your old silver rental(142hp, 225 nt01s, 700/400 on crappy stance shocks)
Turn 1 in my car is brakes off at the 100 sign and on the gas at or before bridge-under. You will hear all the IT/PT/SM cars bark/echo the exhaust as they turn in at the bridge too. There is a lot of exit room in a lower powered car here. 80-85mph exit in my lowly machine.

Turn 2 has an uphill braking zone, then becomes off camber as the track falls away near the apex, this is a common theme here(turns 2, 5, 9..)

Out of 6, through 7 and 8 is a straightaway.

I'm finally getting comfortable turning into 9 early and aiming to the end of the treeline over the blind crest. Good fun 4wheel drifts to be had past apex as the track falls away.

11 is a 7/8 scale turn 1 where you are turning into and uphill, lots more grip than people think which allows good passing as mentioned if you carry speed out of 9. Second fastest turn on the track. I saw a ~74mph exit on friday. Again, lots more exit room than people use. I like to exit wide, using the yellow to set up a midtrack brake and turn-in for the carousel.

Take this all with some salt, Mid O is my home track but I just run de4's.
I look forward to you telling me that this is all wrong after you spend a week here. Maybe you'll tell me how to go faster! The sm record here is rediculous, my best around the pro course is a 1:43.9. I hope it stays dry and you guys smash that PTC record.
doward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 05:43 AM   #8
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,782
Total Cats: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler View Post
I fought in that. Seriously.
Faeflora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2012, 09:00 AM   #9
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,093
Total Cats: 90
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S View Post
The driver is pretty quick but he doesn't have a lot of experience in FWD cars or at Mid Ohio. He's spent a lot of time this year improving the car.
This is one thing I never quite liked about road race runoffs. The home field drivers have a massive advantage in knowing the track. At auto-x the most advantage you can really get from being the home team is knowing what the surface feels like and having a car that's better setup for the type of course you typically get.

Good luck out there, not that you really need it.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 09:56 PM   #10
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, MI
Posts: 510
Total Cats: 15
Default

Not sure if everyone is following their twitter (https://twitter.com/Team949Racing) but:
Quote:
Originally Posted by https://twitter.com/Team949Racing
1:38.01 on 12th hot lap here on R6's during testing. About .6 under lap record. Crusher will run A6's in competition
njn63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:03 PM   #11
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by njn63 View Post
Not sure if everyone is following their twitter (https://twitter.com/Team949Racing) but:
For those not following NASA timing or mylaps results:

Qualy for yesterdays qualy race: My teamate qualified P1 in PTC at a 38.6, emilio 2nd at a 38.9.

Result of qualy race was: Mustang P1 at a 39.16, my teammate (RSX) P2 at a 39.15, emilio P3 at a 39.35 out of 4 starters. I'm pretty sure PTC was supposed to have 7 or 8 cars, not sure why only 4 cars started the qualy race.

Top 3 in qualy race all finished within a second of eachother.

I haven't really been paying attention to the TT results but I know in one session Emilio had the fastest time but was DQ'd for some reason? Same situation as PT where there are 5 or 6 cars in class but only 3 or 4 running the TT sessions.

Also, per the FB page it sounds like on the test day (Wednesday) they (949) had an IAT break so they had to completely re-tune the MS to run without it, and they had some other issues with the car not wanting to start or something. Not sure why they wouldn't bring a spare IAT, I guess they've never had one fail?

Wish I was there racing...

My other teammate finished P1 in PTD at a 40.9 in an '06 Civic Si (last years PTD nat'l champ car with a diff. driver this year).

Last edited by Efini~FC3S; 09-07-2012 at 12:05 PM. Reason: spelling
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:05 PM   #12
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,093
Total Cats: 90
Default

Thats weird on the iat. Most of us use the camaro iat so you can just go to autozone and buy one in stock.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:43 PM   #13
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,326
Total Cats: 1,346
Default

We found our spare IAT and dynoed yesterday to make sure we were still under our limit. All good.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 02:36 PM   #14
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 3,284
Total Cats: 178
Default

Thanks for the updates.
Scrappy Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 02:39 PM   #15
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 15,687
Total Cats: 1,562
Default

There should be a lot of people watching because NASA just mass emailed everybody with a membership about the live broadcast on Saturday and Sunday.

Quote:
Watch the NASA National Championships presented by Toyo Tires on SpeedcastTV.com on Saturday and Sunday September 8th and 9th at 10:30 AM EDT

Dear Friends & Members,

NASA is offering several ways for fans to follow the action during the Championship weekend. NASA is working in conjunction with SpeedcastTV.com again this year to bring you all the racing action live from Mid-Ohio via webcast at champs - National Auto Sport Association - nasaproracing.com. Live timing and scoring from the event can be found at that link as well.

Thanks to our sponsors, we are proud to offer live webcast coverage of the NASA Championships. We have worked hard to bring a number of new and exciting additions to the broadcast this year. The live feed affords our membership as well as family members, friends, fans and sponsors who can't make it to Mid-Ohio for NASA's biggest weekend of the year, the opportunity to watch the best NASA racers from across the nation compete live as it unfolds on the SpeedcastTV.com live broadcast. Fans can also follow us on Facebook at National Auto Sport Association and on Twitter at nasaproracing.

The live broadcast will start Saturday, September 8 at 10:30 a.m. EST and run until 4:15 p.m. EST. Live action will resume Sunday, September 9 at 10:30 a.m. EST and conclude at 4:00 p.m. EST. Be sure to check out the NASA Championships schedule at http://www.nasaproracing.com/nationa..._2012_V1.9.pdf to see when your favorite class will be airing live from the event. On-demand replays of each day's live webcast will also be available minutes after the live webcast ends. Individual races will be released for on-demand viewing during the following week.
Good luck out there.
sixshooter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #16
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
We found our spare IAT and dynoed yesterday to make sure we were still under our limit. All good.
Apparently getting the IAT working is helping (or maybe Emilio finally threw A6s on the car) because he's been going pretty quick today.

It looks like he was fastest of all the PTB-F cars today, out qualifying the PTC field by 1s+. He ran a 37.6, next fastest car was my PTC teammate at 39.0.

That said, it looks like the PTB field is full of chumps. The PTB car I drove last year at NASA Nationals is easily capable of 1:35.x but all the PTB cars are running in the 39s.

Today's qualifying race starts in about 30 minutes or so...
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 08:48 PM   #17
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

via facebook

Thursdays qualy race:

2012 NASA Nationals Mid Ohio Heat race #1 - YouTube
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:11 PM   #18
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
emilio700's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,326
Total Cats: 1,346
Default Heat race #2

By my math, this heat race win puts us on pole for the championship race Sunday. It'll be much harder to hold those guys off for 45 minutes in the dry.

My competition (as I see it)

-Kevin Boehm in the white RSX. Super fast, sharp driver. I think Crusher is a wee bit faster overall but if Kevin gets in front in the dry, I'll have a hard time getting around.
-Yellow Mustang. He's not a real precise kind of driver but he has the top end acceleration
on Kevin and I so he's all but impossible to get around even though he's almost 2sec slower in qual.
-Dennis Holloway in the silver/blue RX8. Super fast driver but I think his car is just a little under prepared for nationals. Just the same, if Kevin and I screw up even a little, Dennis will be right there.
-Jeremy Croiset. Very aggressive and fast driver in a Honda Challenge Civic with a few tweaks to run in PTC. He's a bit of a dark horse because he hasn't done any of the qual races. He'll start at the back Sunday but if he has more car that the rest of, we'll see him at the front.

The rest of the PTC cars entered have been no shows up to now.

Videos
Todays heat race #2

I had never driven Mid Ohio in the wet so I was basically learning the wet line on the formation lap. Damn near spun it twice squirreling tires
and testing for traction of line. Started to figure out a few new lines as the race progressed and was able to open a gap.
Very satisfying win. Plus it was just a ton of fun slip sliding around.




Yesterdays heat Race #1


Last edited by emilio700; 09-07-2012 at 11:42 PM.
emilio700 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:26 PM   #19
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 92
Total Cats: 7
Default

That Mustang was a perfect example of 'that's how I drive...' type of guy. Rolling roadblock indeed..

Congrads on the win!
newold_m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:30 PM   #20
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
GeneSplicer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 2,006
Total Cats: 147
Default

Thank you for 1080p - better be careful, you might be mistaken for a drifter! Awesome driving - will be tuning in for the live stream, have fun keeping all 4 on in the rain!

Last edited by GeneSplicer; 09-07-2012 at 11:40 PM.
GeneSplicer is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 59 12-15-2017 09:00 PM
94-97 JR Header, FM Stage 1 Happy Meal, Carillo rods & Supertech Pistons eddy1128 Miata parts for sale/trade 8 12-10-2015 06:34 PM
WTB HPDE miata - Texas Voltwings Cars for sale/trade 0 09-27-2015 07:40 PM
Megasquirt died mid operation psyber_0ptix MEGAsquirt 4 09-22-2015 10:35 AM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:37 AM.