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Old 09-07-2012, 11:53 PM   #21
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OMFG Crusher is fast a ****!
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I'm supposed to be doing an autocross Sunday, but I'm going to try to make your guys race too. Looks like it should be a pretty good one!
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Default SpeedcastTV coverage of Saturday TT

The TT coverage is about 15 minutes starting at minute 252.
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Click the green "Free" button under "2012 NASA Championships Saturday Replay"
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:46 AM   #24
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Awesome coverage, they must have said your name 25 times. Would have been nice for them to mention 949 Racing

How is there a 4-5 second difference between 1st and 2nd in TTE?
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:48 AM   #25
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The RSX is one of our cars. The driver is pretty quick but he doesn't have a lot of experience in FWD cars or at Mid Ohio. He's spent a lot of time this year improving the car.

Croiset's car is very quick, and, the CRX is rediculously fast at Mid Ohio. Last years PTC winner was a Grand AM spec supercharged Mini with the boost turned up.

Good luck, but I'll have to root for my teammate this time...
Do you work for HAM or HART, by chance? Are these cars running Motons?
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:27 AM   #26
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Sensational!!!
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Nice job "crushing" the entire PTB-PTF field at Nationals, and breaking the track record like, every lap. 10 or 11 sec margin over second PTC as well as beating all PTB cars.

This combined with the 25 results means only one thing...

Thanks in advance for the 50lbs (or more) NASA will shove up the collective miata's asses (again) next year.

Seriously great race. I really, really liked how you gave it back to the assclown in the Mustang. What a douche move going all four off trying to pass you on the start. Your blocking move on his second attempt was sublime and brilliant.

Well done. Hope to see ya at Hallett.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:39 PM   #28
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Do you work for HAM or HART, by chance? Are these cars running Motons?
I work for HART and THR.

None of our cars in the race had motons. Most of them are running off-the-shelf cheap H&R coilovers including the RSX. I believe the silver PTD civic was running DA Koni yellows.

I went up to Mid-Ohio today, got a call at 11AM that our silver PTD car needed a transmission. The spare was 1hr away from me and another 1.25 hrs from the track...race started at 3PM. Needless to say we absolutely thrashed to get the trans changed in the silver car.

Got to watch the race, it was a pretty good one. Our team ended up with 3 second place finishes which is pretty good, but a bit disappointing.

Congrats to Emilio, his car is definitely well built and he drove a pretty good race. His car had some bruises on it, I guess at least two of the PTC cars were filling out body contact forms.

Per the RSX that finished 2nd to Crusher, it's not built to the limit of PTC and it leaves a lot on the table. It's missing a lot of "0" point mods and probably could make 10-15 more HP if we wanted to build it for PT racing. The motor has never been opened up, it's basically an intake, header, exhaust build with off the shelf H&R coilovers. The car could be easily replicated on the cheap. The RSX rear suspension is so awful, we'll probably never fully build it fully to PTC. The '06-'11 and '12 Civic Si would be much more competitive in PTC.

Again, Congrats to Emilio, 949 continues to do well in NASA racing. Maybe Emilio could chime in his thoughts about Mid-Ohio. It's basically my home track so I'm always interested to hear what other people from around the country think about it.
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Nice job "crushing" the entire PTB-PTF field at Nationals, and breaking the track record like, every lap. 10 or 11 sec margin over second PTC as well as beating all PTB cars.

This combined with the 25 results means only one thing...

Thanks in advance for the 50lbs (or more) NASA will shove up the collective miata's asses (again) next year.
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Sorry for the double post, but the PTB field this year was awful. I think of last years PTB field, there's at least 3-4 car/driver combos that would have walked away with the race this year. I drove the Acura TL that finished 2nd (in today's race) last year, ran 1:36s easily, car is capable of 35s. Of last years field I think at least three cars ran in the 36s consistently, I don't think any PTB car even got close this year (similar conditions). Kicking myself in the **** a little bit for not running PTx this year, but I decided to sit it out to concentrate on the Runoffs.

Miata/MX-5 won PTC and PTD, so yea, unfortunately for anyone else running miata's in PT or TT, they might just get another lead trophy. Probably not, but maybe.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:11 PM   #30
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SpeedcastTV

skip to 259: for Emilio's fight with that doucher in the mustang
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Shitty move by the Mustang at the start.

Congrats Emilio!
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In for in-car video of that race - and nudging asshat at start. He shoulda got flagged for repeating that **** - at end he was warned, but still.

Congrats Emilio, well done, well done.
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Default 2012 NASA nationals PTC race

Here it is. Loading now so might not be live until tomorrow morning


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Congrats Emilio. I was impressed as always.
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Here it is. Loading now so might not be live until tomorrow morning

[YT]BAD UPLOAD[YT]

Stop the foreplay - we need in-car!

**edit**

Vid is live now - was wondering if mustang ******* contested your win? The way he drives I could see him being a winey bitch. Time for a new GoPro

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If the video breaks up, try reloading the page. The file was somehow corrupted a little so there it's not perfect but it will play all the way through with just the exposure flicklering here and there

At the start I knew the Mustang would try the same pass in the grass move he got away with Thursday so I made a plan to thwart it. The first time he hit me medium hard, I was OK. He bounced off and came back two more times. The third hit was really hard, jerked the wheel in my hand and sent a puff of tire smoke up. I backed off then as I realized this guy would simply use the entire weight of his car as a battering ram and take me completely out. At that point the weight of his car had shoved me away from the edge of the track where I was stationed enough for him to get a tire on and rocket past. By then though, we were close enough to the braking zone for China Beach that I could stay with him. He stays amongst the leaders for another lap and tries again at China Beach. I fight hard to get past and make it stick this time.

The PTB Acura TSX may have been the team mate of the PTC Hart Racing Acura RSX that was up front. In any case, the PTB Acura blocked like crazy for three laps. Way more power but much slower through the technical woods section. Finally he blew Keyhole under braking and left the door open. I get under and scoot past. Being allowed only a single defending move, I run down the center going into China Beach. The TSX moves left on the preferred line. I shut the door. That's it. Once I can get to Madness (T5) in front, I know I'm free. I felt like the back section between Madness and T11 were my sanctuary. Chase Crusher into the woods and never see it again

The PTB leader in the white civic puts up a little bit of a fight. He leaves just enough room in the Carousel for me to get a nose under. We enter the front straight overlapping. At this point I can't run him wide. I get a bit lucky as we're catching a slow PTF Protege on the right. I have to move left to pass and that pinches the PTB Civics line for T1. He checks up, I scoot through at full speed and it's done. Now it's time hunt down the white RSX leading my class and the race overall about 3 sec up the road. Once I'm clear of traffic, it only takes me one lap to close the gap. I catch him under braking for Keyhole as he leaves the door open a bit. Just enough for me to present myself and force him to leave me "racing room". The RSX closes the door anyway and we rub. I get past at the apex. The RSX recovers and gets a good run of the turn and my left side. I use a slower PTE RX7 to shut that door. That makes the RSX breathe the throttle and scoot to my right. Just as he does that I move all the way right to block at the kink halfway down the straight. I don't react quickly enough and he's able to present before I get there so I have to leave the door open on the right. He pulls past and is ahead on the inside for the braking zone for China Beach. We have "The" big braking duel there. I get overlapped with him and leave room at the apex. He hits me again anyway, twice. From here I have the inside for Madness (T5) and its over. The RSX stays close for about a lap but once I get a clear track, I turn in the room key an check out.

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LOVE the commentary! I'm looking forward to making some time to view the footage now.
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If it's not a secret - what tires for the win? 205/50-15 Hoosier A6?
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If it's not a secret - what tires for the win? 205/50-15 Hoosier A6?
Yup. Cooled off enough Saturday and Sunday for them to be an advantage. Wed-Fri it was 20 warmer and the R6 (SM6) was just as fast and fell off a bit less in long runs. Even with the 65 ambient in the race, I picked up a push towards the end with the A6's. We also never got a session long enough during the week to get a good read on temps so I guessed on the high side for the race. That would insure I had good tires for the first 3 laps when it mattered, even if they went a little over towards the end. I figured once I had a gap (if I got in front) I could manage them a bit and hang on. That's how it panned out so the pressure choice worked.
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Emilio, when you say you went a bit high with pressures, what amounts are we talking?

For example you went with 28psi so the car was better at the beginning as opposed to 27.5....24 etc. Just interested in the spread between a good start pressure as opposed to a good finish pressure....over those 22 odd laps.

And another question, the tv / web footage of the meeting looks amazing, you guys are really lucky to have that. From the coverage the weekend looked liked a lot of fun, with the different classes and spread over so many days. Was it a great trip on and off the track?

Also, these in car videos are really great.(especially when you can watch the external perspective as well...fantastic!) I have watched most of your in car vids more than a few times.

I did notice that if the camera was slightly lower (perhaps?) we might be able to see out the rear view mirror as well. Sometimes I try and see where the car attacking or you have just passed is.....of course then it might be blocking your vision......just a thought.

EDIT: Oops this latest one IS lower. cool!
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