Thinking about dedicated track/autox wheels n tires - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-14-2007, 02:46 AM   #1
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default Thinking about dedicated track/autox wheels n tires

But I am torn between a few options: I really want to get a set of those 13x8 Rota RB's and put Kuhmo 710s on em, but I have a set of stock Daisies and could easily put the same tires on those (albeit smaller), but they would be less wide. I want Maximum grip for my car, but do not know how much of a difference the wider tire would make.
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 09:28 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
steelrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 514
Total Cats: 0
Default

I've got 13x7 panasports..... I personally think they are a great addition to autoxing here.... anyway.... Although, they do change how the car feels....

1) turn in is slower... but overall grip through the corner is actually better....
2) gearing change... with the smaller overall diametre of the tire, the gearing does shift around slightly....

Speaking of which, I need a new set of 710's this year.....

Dave,
steelrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 12:02 PM   #3
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,904
Total Cats: 4
Default

just put them on the daisy
Pitlab77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 12:47 PM   #4
Miotta FTW!
iTrader: (24)
 
Splitime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 4,295
Total Cats: 26
Default

Don't forget to factor in what type of driving you do. And what tire options you'll have. Brake size is an issue too.

Will your wheels clear the brakes you use, or might use later.
Will the wheels have a selection of tires, in case you desire to use another brand... or feel the gearing is wrong with your current tire size.

I'm running 14in for daily and track, I'm finding that tire choice isn't ideal. Later I may very well move to 15s for better tire options in brand/compound and size (gearing).
Splitime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 12:52 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 1,168
Total Cats: 0
Default

I'd ideally run a 13x8 for an autox tire. It seems like that would be best, but the local turbo NB around here that is shared by a couple of pros (that regularly beats me by huge margins) is running 15x7 Kosei K1s.

I'm running 14x6 and it sucks.
Al Hounos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 12:59 PM   #6
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,147
Total Cats: 6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Hounos View Post
but the local turbo NB around here that is shared by a couple of pros (that regularly beats me by huge margins) is running 15x7 Kosei K1s.
Man i love those wheels. +1 for the kosei k1s
cjernigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 01:56 PM   #7
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,904
Total Cats: 4
Default

i guess its down to what you want.

I run factory 99 sport 15x6 wheels because that is what my class says I have to run. Factory size, width, and offset for C-stock
Pitlab77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 02:04 PM   #8
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,910
Total Cats: 1,793
Default

track 15s, autox 13s = 14s dual purpose
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 03:31 PM   #9
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,921
Total Cats: 0
Default

Somthing to keep in mind as well ... going from a 195/50/15 (or 185/60/14) to a 215/50/13 is pretty close to 3/4" drop in ride height. This could mess with clearance on exhaust and I/C piping.

How big is the venue that you run at? Typically how fast are the courses? Running out of gear in 2nd a lot?

My biggest concern with the 13's is running out of 2nd and having to shift a lot. We are running all of our events on a smaller tighter lot this year, so it might be ok.

If you want to do anything on the road course get a 15" wheel, the 13" will be way too short. Not to mention that you'd eat up a set of 710's in a hurry.

Jay
jayc72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 07:42 PM   #10
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

why would they wear out so much faster just because its smaller diameter?
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 08:37 PM   #11
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,921
Total Cats: 0
Default

Sorry, I meant 710s in general. They won't stand up to the prolonged heat.

If you want something that will work ok for both autox and track days you are best to go with something like an ra-1 or victoracer in 15".

I don't think there will be a tire that do well in both environments.

Make sense?
jayc72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 08:55 PM   #12
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,054
Total Cats: 8
Default

949 racing's 6ul. Cheap, light, 15x8.
Efini~FC3S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2007, 09:48 PM   #13
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Concord, North Carolina
Posts: 4,173
Total Cats: 5
Default

^I want those...
miatamania is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2007, 03:44 AM   #14
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
akaryrye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 2,526
Total Cats: 0
Default

U know, theres a guy (charles) who I see at almost every autocross and he has the 6ul with slicks mounted, along with a BEGI FM2, Revalved bilstiens, and I dunno what springs he runs. He gets about 10 seconds on me consistantly. Pretty good driver also. Better driver + better car = 10 seconds on a 1 minute course lol. When we worked the cones together I told him that I was going to beat him by the end of the season (jokingly). However I am gauging my performance on his times since he is more consistant than me being a better driver and hope to get within five seconds of his times by the end of the season on 205 azenis. I know the car is capable with a few suspension tweaks, the RX7 differential (project started today), megasquirt, and a whole lot of drivers instinct tweaks.
akaryrye is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Project Gemini - Turbo Civic on the Cheap Full_Tilt_Boogie Build Threads 59 12-15-2017 09:00 PM
15x10 - 15x11 6UL @ 949 Racing emilio700 Wheels and Tires 151 06-02-2017 03:36 PM
1994 Spec Miata Race Car SM/SM2/SSM For Sale Quinn Cars for sale/trade 6 10-23-2016 08:58 AM
OTS Bilstein to motorsports ASN conversion stoves Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 5 04-21-2016 04:00 PM
Leaky Wilwoods mx592 Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 1 10-01-2015 01:45 AM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:51 PM.