Ultimate Miata Diet: How to lose 700lbs - Page 2 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-25-2013, 03:46 PM   #21
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
shuiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 13,775
Total Cats: 1,106
Default

Also remember that the Exocet importer for the US is based out of Atlanta. So for DIY to have the kit maker local is a big added bonus.
shuiend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 09:16 PM   #22
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

I looked at several kits before contacting Exomotive. I went this direction for many reasons. Some of which, in no particular order, are functionality, proximity, cost, openness of their chief engineer to share data publicly, and rapid and friendly email response. Love or hate the cosmetics, I don't care. Cosmetics are a secondary concern to me. The car actually does not photograph well, and I was surprised how much better it looks in person.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
I barely drive the miata anymore as is. It could be cool to have a real project and then a really fun weekend car. I wouldn't complain as much about the motor after shaving 800lbs off the damn thing. Would probably step it down to a t25 finally.
Ding ding ding. I've noticed that I enjoy the build process and eventually get bored with a finished car. Frankly I've owned many Miatas over the last 13 years, they've been great to me, but it's time to freshen things up. I'm excited about taking on the project. I think it's going to be a load of fun to build and drive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shuiend View Post
Also remember that the Exocet importer for the US is based out of Atlanta. So for DIY to have the kit maker local is a big added bonus.
Actually Exomotive is now the manufacturer. The kits are assembled 30 minutes from our shop. This opens up many opportunities, not just for Ben to get a new fun car, but also for DIYAutoTune.com to partner with Exomotive and help release some great new products that will benefit us both, as well as benefit our many customers that I expect we will mutually share. It just felt like a natural partnership to me.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 10:09 PM   #23
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (25)
 
curly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 12,107
Total Cats: 518
Default

They're limited by the front subframe aren't they? That's the benefit over a 7 kit, yes? No new subframe, steering rack, drive shaft, or suspension arms? I think they did a lot with the looks for what they had to work with.
curly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 10:43 PM   #24
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Correct. The Exocet retains the Miata's front and rear subframes, suspension, brakes, engine, driveshaft, transmission, differential, and axles. And any engine swap that fits into a Miata should also fit in the Exocet. Some sort of LS1 type swap is a viable option for the chassis, one day.

Attached Thumbnails
Ultimate Miata Diet:  How to lose 700lbs-htg5q.jpg  
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 10:45 PM   #25
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

You have no idea how much I love that cartoon compared to the cartoons at work.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2013, 02:50 AM   #26
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 2,644
Total Cats: 76
Default

Yep, in the GRM thread Warren hints at Exocet specific wiring harnesses and ECU's developed specifically for the chassis.......so buying bits and pieces could make since if you can't find a decent donor.

And with Ben, if you go read the GRM thread I linked, we all asked alot of questions which Warren was more than forthright about. So even though now my goals don't seem to line up with an Exocet build (unless the money situation changes drastically in the next 18 months)..........I still think it's an awesome platform with a lot of potential.

I'll be watching this thread with excitement.
z31maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2013, 04:01 AM   #27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: chicago
Posts: 665
Total Cats: -35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NiklasFalk View Post
Why not add a GRP Miata shell on top of it just for the looks
One-piece front, a wide-body rear, fastback HT and you're almost there.

A light Miata or a heavy and ugly Seven/Atom replica?
that would be awesome.
psreynol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2013, 12:55 PM   #28
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 2,644
Total Cats: 76
Default

Full race version with aero.

Attached Thumbnails
Ultimate Miata Diet:  How to lose 700lbs-ektelgr.jpg  
z31maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2013, 08:22 PM   #29
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

MS3-Pro (01-05 MSPNP Prototype) tuning on the donor car
-dotted stock computer, solid MS3-Pro-
A little fat still in that 2500-3000 range, but overall a much better fuel curve than what the stock ECU provides. A little higher rev limiter, too. OK, a lot higher. An extra 500 rpm.


Attached Thumbnails
Ultimate Miata Diet:  How to lose 700lbs-kd8s.jpg   Ultimate Miata Diet:  How to lose 700lbs-3im4.jpg  
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 01:37 AM   #30
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
IcantDo55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: VA Beach
Posts: 1,764
Total Cats: 18
Default

Sub'd
IcantDo55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 09:07 AM   #31
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,860
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

Did you fool with VVT maps on the above dnyo?
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 09:56 AM   #32
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
Did you fool with VVT maps on the above dnyo?
Yes, steady state to 4000rpm, with ramp runs 4000+
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 09:58 AM   #33
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,860
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

do you expect to get that +5 rwtq if you fix the fueling between 2500-3500?
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 10:06 AM   #34
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
do you expect to get that +5 rwtq if you fix the fueling between 2500-3500?
Yeah, that's just fuel. It's a tad rich there. Spark and valve timing were optimized by steady state dyno with real time torque readout.
It would pick up a few more hp up top if a little fuel was taken out. The car's really no dyno queen though, it's too stock to make any impressive amount of power.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 10:17 AM   #35
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,860
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

but +5rwtq throughout the entire powerband is pretty nice.
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 11:02 AM   #36
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Braineack View Post
but +5rwtq throughout the entire powerband is pretty nice.
Yes, but the 500 rpm higher rev limit is even better.
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 11:46 AM   #37
Boost Czar
iTrader: (61)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 72,860
Total Cats: 1,788
Default

make it 1000 rpm, you can do it!
Braineack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #38
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

Yes you can.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2013, 05:32 PM   #39
Ben
Supporting Vendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,689
Total Cats: 99
Default

Float Valve, Float!

I'll offer free dyno time to either one of you... if you're willing to pull your stock motor to 8000+
Ben is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #40
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben View Post
Float Valve, Float!

I'll offer free dyno time to either one of you... if you're willing to pull your stock motor to 8000+
Is this VVT exclusive or do 99-00 engines count?
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1994 Spec Miata Race Car SM/SM2/SSM For Sale Quinn Cars for sale/trade 6 10-23-2016 08:58 AM
Need help - Stock Balancer and Fastforward overlay pulleys Frank_and_Beans Supercharger Discussion 13 09-12-2016 09:17 PM
LucaCarMods's Boosted Dutch Miata Build! LucaCarMods Build Threads 11 02-14-2016 07:13 AM
Are my coils failing? viriiguy General Miata Chat 5 09-28-2015 08:39 PM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:21 AM.