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ZX-Tex 10-16-2009 11:42 PM

V8 Rebellion?
 
Is it just me, or are the initial stages of a V8 mass exodus underway?


I've been playing with numbers on v8 swap vs track-worthy turbo setup... v8 wins.


Here is what I have ordered so far:
- stock LS1 motor from '99 Camaro

Just bought this... Don't hate me...
And some others...

No worries though, it's all good.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 10-16-2009 11:43 PM

These are dark times indeed, we are slowing going the way of the FD RX-7

rharris19 10-16-2009 11:47 PM

I am going to pick up my LS1 motor/T56 tomorrow. This will be my daily. The turbo is still my track car.

kenzo42 10-16-2009 11:49 PM

I'll do an FD LS1 after Nov. Either that or an NSX. Can't decide.

18psi 10-16-2009 11:49 PM

These are not dark times. They are times of enlightenment:D
I think its great. The more people that do this the more companies will make parts for it, the more competition the cheaper the prices, the cheaper the prices the more people will do it and provide feedback/build threads/helpful tips/info. All good things for my future v8 miata project:)

deliverator 10-16-2009 11:51 PM

If all one wants is to tear around the street or auto-x circuit, a reasonably priced turbo setup is viable.

Once we start talking about a significant percentage of what Hustler has spent on getting his turbo setup to survive track duty.... V8 swap is better bang for the buck.

Just my opinion of course.

ZX-Tex 10-16-2009 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 469383)
I am going to pick up my LS1 motor/T56 tomorrow. This will be my daily. The turbo is still my track car.

HA that is funny. I am doing the opposite. LS1 track car, turbo daily driver. I suppose it all balances out :)

ZX-Tex 10-16-2009 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 469384)
I'll do an FD LS1 after Nov. Either that or an NSX. Can't decide.

I would do the FD. That is a damn sexy car for the money and the bulletproof V8 just makes it that much better, not to mention the great handling. Lots of FD chassis parts available too.

I had not heard of NSX V8 conversions though. That could be nice.

apariah 10-17-2009 12:04 AM

V8 914 for the win, track or street!

deliverator 10-17-2009 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by apariah (Post 469394)
V8 914 for the win, track or street!

Indeed.

Renegade Hybrids

magnamx-5 10-17-2009 12:11 AM

meh fuck that i love my turbo. Now my nissan on the other hand would be a decent lt1 swap candidate after this winter if shit picks up either that or i could just fix up my TA some more. Decissions all hinge on $$ and time though.

ZX-Tex 10-17-2009 12:14 AM

Wow... Except for the 928, I would not have guessed the LSx or any V8 would fit (vertically limited) in a Porsche chassis since the stock motors are horizontally opposed (not the 928).

hustler 10-17-2009 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by deliverator (Post 469387)
If all one wants is to tear around the street or auto-x circuit, a reasonably priced turbo setup is viable.

Once we start talking about a significant percentage of what Hustler has spent on getting his turbo setup to survive track duty.... V8 swap is better bang for the buck.

Just my opinion of course.

What does it take to make an SBC survive track duty? Just an accusump / drysump conversion?

In hindsight, after adding-up engine money, my turbo route is still cheaper than what a V8 swap would run because I'd have to drop my car off to someone like FM for the labor. When I started building my car, I was on a super-tight budget...if I started this build from scratch today, I may have an SBC in my lil' green miata.

I still think a 200whp 'Busa swap would be more fun on the track than an SBC, with "think" being the operative.

I look forward to playing with a v8 miata on the track...especially a local, nameless shit-talking motherfucker.

kenzo42 10-17-2009 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 469390)
I would do the FD. That is a damn sexy car for the money and the bulletproof V8 just makes it that much better, not to mention the great handling. Lots of FD chassis parts available too.

I had not heard of NSX V8 conversions though. That could be nice.

Oh, I meant a stock NSX vs a V8 FD. Just not sure how reliable these V8 conversions are.

ZX-Tex 10-17-2009 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 469405)
I look forward to playing with a v8 miata on the track...especially a local, nameless shit-talking motherfucker.

Hmmm... now who would that be? :noes:

Stein 10-17-2009 12:41 AM

Got my Miata motor pulled yesterday from the other 99, the 5.0 is halfway pulled out tonight. Should finish pulling to tomorrow:giggle:

Debating on keeping the turbo car or just keeping the V8. It needs paint. If I keep only the V8, I'm copying Dopple's car. If I keep both, I may jst repaint black to keep the cost down. We will see what "one who must be obeyed" has to say. We have thee miatas now, plus her Protege, plus I have two 4x4 trucks, bass boat, dune buggy. My insurance man likes me. I really have too much stuffs.

UrbanSoot 10-17-2009 12:54 AM

v8 conversion can be done under $6k. ive got source for axles/driveshafts. group buy anyone? it will work for turbo guys too in case someone wants to upgrade to 8.8 rear end.

anyways, i was looking at how much stuff for domestic vehicles costs and holy shit - $250 for BRAND NEW limited slip diff? cmon...

JayL 10-17-2009 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 469434)
ive got source for axles/driveshafts. group buy anyone?

I'd be interested in the axles and the diff setup.

Stein 10-17-2009 01:07 AM

My 8.8 diff axles with all new CV joints are on the way. Should be here next week. Plug and play in the 8.8 diff. Have to either broach the Miata hubs or just go to the T-bird spindles and fab new control arms. Both will work. $245 shipped for both, brand new axles and 4 CV's, assembled.:yippee:

UrbanSoot 10-17-2009 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by JayL (Post 469440)
I'd be interested in the axles and the diff setup.

in a group buy section. sent my source an email about it. waiting on response (hopefully with discounts.)


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