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WonTon 10-17-2009 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 469410)
Oh, I meant a stock NSX vs a V8 FD. Just not sure how reliable these V8 conversions are.

i would lean more towards a v8 being more reliable that a rotary! i know there a hell of alot easier to work on! alot less confusing too!

i sill love rotary though.... :D

UrbanSoot 10-17-2009 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by WonTon (Post 469451)
i would lean more towards a v8 being more reliable that a rotary! i know there a hell of alot easier to work on! alot less confusing too!

i sill love rotary though.... :D

20 minute cam change ftw!

WonTon 10-17-2009 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by urbansoot (Post 469453)
20 minute cam change ftw!


ftmfw!

WonTon 10-17-2009 01:45 AM

kenzo42! i dont know if you know about this site or not but they have been building swap kit for the rx7's since they first rolled off the showroom floor if im not mistaken, not to expensive either!

here ya go! http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/

emilio700 10-17-2009 02:11 AM

I had planned on building an L33 based car this Spring. Sean, our new mechanic said today "I have an LS1 and spare T5 you can have". I guess that seals it. So I have a 99 Sport Package and a 95 R Package as willing donors. Thinking the little R package would be perfect since its OBD I..

So yeah, it's the cheapest speed that will still go around corners well. Within a few hours of us announcing race prep and full builds, I had four guys inquiring about getting an LSx plan started for them. This is gonna be fun.

hustler 10-17-2009 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 469417)
Hmmm... now who would that be? :noes:

not you. This guy talked shit to me a few years ago at a gas station.

jacob300zx 10-17-2009 03:39 AM

T5, I don't think their up to the task Emilio. Did you mean T56?

NA6C-Guy 10-17-2009 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 469385)
These are not dark times. They are times of enlightenment:D
I think its great. The more people that do this the more companies will make parts for it, the more competition the cheaper the prices, the cheaper the prices the more people will do it and provide feedback/build threads/helpful tips/info. All good things for my future v8 miata project:)

Exactly, for god sake people, keep it up! Maybe that way in a few years I can afford a V8 swap when my budget picks up a little.

So who is the Moses of this Exodus?

Miata turbos going the way of the FD V8 is excellent! An FD with an LS1 would be one of my ideal cars for a reasonable price.

Hi Im Simon 10-17-2009 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 469384)
I'll do an FD LS1 after Nov. Either that or an NSX. Can't decide.

FD all the way, i think NSX are way too overpriced for what they are.

UrbanSoot 10-17-2009 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 469483)
I had planned on building an L33 based car this Spring. Sean, our new mechanic said today "I have an LS1 and spare T5 you can have". I guess that seals it. So I have a 99 Sport Package and a 95 R Package as willing donors. Thinking the little R package would be perfect since its OBD I..

So yeah, it's the cheapest speed that will still go around corners well. Within a few hours of us announcing race prep and full builds, I had four guys inquiring about getting an LSx plan started for them. This is gonna be fun.

it doesnt matter whether car is obd1 or obd2 since electronics on GM motors are stupid easy to swap and they actually all come as one single unit which fits under the hood. thats right - you dont need to run wires through your entire car! if youd like to, i could stop by once my car is done and show you how everything is hooked up. so far i dont see any complicated steps in a swap process.
also, ive read somewhere that you wanted to use V8R kit. any reason for that besides it being pretty tubular setup instead of BF's square tubing and sheet metal? im pretty sure you can get BF stuff cheaper then V8R (dealer pricing) but i guess you would know better :)

hustler 10-17-2009 09:47 AM

If you guys are the rebels than I want to be Vader...but I have a damn green car. WTF does that get me? I do not want to be a dumbass storm trooper. I guess the NA miata motor rebels can be Ewoks. lol

gospeed81 10-17-2009 10:08 AM

miataturbo/V8.net

Doppelgänger 10-17-2009 10:56 AM

To put things in perspective on doing a V8 swap and running autoX....

1600lb starting weight
+200 lb per ltr for the motor..

5.7 x200 = 1140 + 1600 = 2740

-200 lb for running a 275 or narrower tire = 2540lb minimum weight.

Meaning NA guys would have to add ballast, but my fully-optioned 02 would probably just barely meet the min. weight just by doing the swap.



Hmmmmmmmmm

If I ever had another DD, I'd consider pulling my drivetrain and selling it to fund a V8.

ZX-Tex 10-17-2009 11:01 AM

OK... I am going to say it... I know several of you are thinking it... here goes...
Does mt.n need an engine swap section?
*** runs for cover ***

Toddcod 10-17-2009 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by JayL (Post 469440)
I'd be interested in the axles and the diff setup.

Are you the guy that had a few seconds on pinks? Someone had a car just like that one.

gospeed81 10-17-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 469551)
OK... I am going to say it... I know several of you are thinking it... here goes...
Does mt.n need an engine swap section?
*** runs for cover ***

That and a P&R section...

boileralum 10-17-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 469548)
To put things in perspective on doing a V8 swap and running autoX....

1600lb starting weight
+200 lb per ltr for the motor..

5.7 x200 = 1140 + 1600 = 2740

-200 lb for running a 275 or narrower tire = 2540lb minimum weight.

Meaning NA guys would have to add ballast, but my fully-optioned 02 would probably just barely meet the min. weight just by doing the swap.



Hmmmmmmmmm

If I ever had another DD, I'd consider pulling my drivetrain and selling it to fund a V8.

You are using SSM points calculations for a car that would have to be in XP (unless you are swapping in a 5.7L Mazda engine).

skidude 10-17-2009 11:31 AM

You can add me to the list, as I am in the very beginning stages of planning an LS(x) miata. It won't happen for a while though.

Sentic 10-17-2009 12:01 PM

Who's gonna be first with "I need turbos for my LS1"... ?

SolarYellow510 10-17-2009 12:04 PM

Keep It Simple, dumbasS
 
I spent a lot of time a few years ago OCDing about LS in E36 and FD chassis, and finally decided that the right answer is just to go buy a Corvette. It's basically the same car as a Miata, but big enough to actually put down 500+ hp. 285 front/315 rear go on with cheap replica wheels and clear 14-in. dia. brakes. It's corner-weightable and ride height adjustable from the factory. The work is already done, with a level of integrity good enough to have had a full factory warranty, even if it's expired.

Fundamentally good, but not perfect chassis. Engine that's only good enough but easy to get more power from.

I even finally realized that 255/40-17 and 275/40-27 on first-gen ZR1 replica wheels will work great and give you lots of affordable, good tire choices.

You do need to replace the seats and steering wheel with something that doesn't make you want to vomit when you look at them, and parts of the interior are liable to free themselves, but that last bit is true of BMWs, too.

If I get as far as I want to take my Miata, and it's still not good enough, this is what I'm doing.


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