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Old 06-07-2013, 12:59 PM   #61
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Well, if I owned a MSM, I would probably research the reflash and ECU stuff more, but I'm speaking from having ridden in a couple of cars with it. I'll admit I do not know any of the settings/tune used.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:35 PM   #62
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The OP needs to decide what he is going to do with the MSM. Is he going to drive it as an MSM or take every 'MSM' thing out of it and make a baller trubo NB? If it is an MSM, he needs the Little Enchilada from FM (or equivalent). Add to that, a MS, some good brake pads and the best shocks he can afford and he will have a very nice street car that can do some light track duty.

If he wants to build a 300+whp beast that is only going to resemble an MSM from the outside, he should sell it and buy a much cheaper and less unique NB to start with. There's a reason the car in my avatar is an NA yet I moderate at mazda-speed.com. You can't always have the best of everything in one package so the MSM was retired from weekly beatings and the track car was built.
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The OP needs to decide what he is going to do with the MSM. Is he going to drive it as an MSM or take every 'MSM' thing out of it and make a baller trubo NB? If it is an MSM, he needs the Little Enchilada from FM (or equivalent). Add to that, a MS, some good brake pads and the best shocks he can afford and he will have a very nice street car that can do some light track duty.

If he wants to build a 300+whp beast that is only going to resemble an MSM from the outside, he should sell it and buy a much cheaper and less unique NB to start with. There's a reason the car in my avatar is an NA yet I moderate at mazda-speed.com. You can't always have the best of everything in one package so the MSM was retired from weekly beatings and the track car was built.


I'm pulling the Koni suspention from my 03 this weekend and installing it on the MSM. The brakes are fine as they are. May look into better pads but the stock ones feel good. (As you know we have bigger brakes)

For a turbo car I can now appreciate the importance of a stand alone fuel management system. So as soon as I sell the 03 I'll but the megasquirt PNP from the guy on here.

I don't want 300 hp, I think the car was never built for that level of power and I believe the car would be less reliable and more prone to blowing up. 200-220 would be great. Besides- I already have a 500HP Corvette.

So I guess what I am going with is Option A,

Visiting this site has been great. I n a short period of time I have learned a lot about stuff I never knew before. Thank you guys for all of the help and ideas.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:43 PM   #65
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Thinking mega squirt. But I want to do stuff that is going to make an actual difference in level or consistency of power.

In your case install a wideband and see for your self, then install a MS.
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So it seems to me you want a quick DD? If so, the MSM is the perfect solution for you. Full bolt ons and basic suspension, and a street friendly rollbar will make you happy.
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There's a reason the car in my avatar is an NA yet I moderate at mazda-speed.com.
No more m-s.com for me Mr. Hyde. I was tired of getting my knuckles cracked by SMR everytime I breathed wrong. And, this is coming from someone who is pretty tame on the boards imo.

OP, I agree with most others. Ref post #2, and you're there.

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No more m-s.com for me Mr. Hyde. I was tired of getting my knuckles cracked by SMR everytime I breathed wrong. And, this is coming from someone who is pretty tame on the boards imo.

OP, I agree with most others. Ref post #2, and your there.
Do you still your account over on m-s.com?

I wanted to show you this.

How to build your own "bolt on" 16G
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I read through that thread when you sent it to me slmhofy and I have to say I was impressed. I also realized how much work you had to put into that and I am pretty convinced that unless you live somewhere with a visual inspection it just is not worth it. I was so on bored and then I was like holy **** so much work.
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Do you still your account over on m-s.com?

I wanted to show you this.

How to build your own "bolt on" 16G
I have my account. I just don't visit the site anymore. However, I'm making an exception to read your thread. I remember you asking me about my BNR bolt on EVOIII 16G, which is still running well...

EDIT - slmhofy, wow you are a better man than me. I just let BNR do all the work. I know there are different 16G's. Mine is a 39 lb/min version (EVOIII). Is that what you are using? Sorry to hear about that piston. I ended up using Supertech pistons and M-tuned rods. Great job BTW.

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No more m-s.com for me Mr. Hyde. I was tired of getting my knuckles cracked by SMR everytime I breathed wrong. And, this is coming from someone who is pretty tame on the boards imo.
SMR is just following what the community there decided they want: PG rated language and no personal attacks or battles. It is nice to have a 'friendly' place where new people can ask stupid questions and get polite answers. No STFA there and yes, my posts occasionally get edited too...

The knowledge base on how to make a Miata fast without blowing up is much stronger here and I often link posts to here when people start asking technical questions. I also add the warning to not post anything stupid if you aren't established here. This group isn't exactly nice to the new guy if he doesn't come with real knowledge behind his questions.
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I was "reprimanded" for simply posting a smilie (and literally nothing else) in a for-sale thread where someone was asking some stupid high price for something.

That was the final straw for me. But, it's good to see you here Mr. H
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Oh yeah, another rule I personally like. No discussion in FS threads not specifically related to the history/condition of the item being listed. It does help keep the threads clean.
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I read through that thread when you sent it to me slmhofy and I have to say I was impressed. I also realized how much work you had to put into that and I am pretty convinced that unless you live somewhere with a visual inspection it just is not worth it. I was so on bored and then I was like holy **** so much work.
If you live in Florida, probably not worth what I did. But really, there are only 3 cuts that require to be made on a lathe or mill. The rest can be done in in your garage with a welder and simple tools. AKA, you can have a "bolt on" turbo for MSM that's capable of over 300hp for as cheap as you can buy a Small or Evo 3 16G. Or roughly $3-400.

Hyde, your turbo should be there Monday.
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I have my account. I just don't visit the site anymore. However, I'm making an exception to read your thread. I remember you asking me about my BNR bolt on EVOIII 16G, which is still running well...

EDIT - slmhofy, wow you are a better man than me. I just let BNR do all the work. I know there are different 16G's. Mine is a 39 lb/min version (EVOIII). Is that what you are using? Sorry to hear about that piston. I ended up using Supertech pistons and M-tuned rods. Great job BTW.
I ended up using a Small 16G or 35lb/min. And thanks for the condolences. Engine is rebuilt with Wiseco pistons now and going strong.

I fail at making humorous remarks =P
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Hyde, your turbo should be there Monday.
Awesome. My current casting is cracking like the Grand Canyon. It's going to the wastegate instead of the CHRA so it won't be catastrophic but I do plan on this project for the winter. My current turbo has seen serious track beatings on two different cars for 4+ seasons. I really can't complain! I'm pretty confident no IHI has been pushed this hard for this long.
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Oh yeah, another rule I personally like. No discussion in FS threads not specifically related to the history/condition of the item being listed. It does help keep the threads clean.
I disagree. It's never a bad idea to let others chime in about price gouging, which I did very politely. I guess it was the condescending attitude of a very innocent post that told me it was time to leave.

Maybe it was just my thin skin, or simply not wanting to to the man anymore...
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2x on that. The other day i saw a fs thread. I kept it to my self but the car was ****. MSM with no fuel control set at 10 psi and no wideband... Say hello to fried guts.
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Motocraft for the fluid and I am sure that Miata.net or mazda-speed.com has a writeup on how to change it.
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What weight am I looking for? Do you know exactly what it is called? Guessing this is the pure synthetic gear lube. Question is product code MTG or SVG?
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google "miata motorcraft"

seriously. its not that hard
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