Aluminum Adjustable Cam Gear 99$ First 10 gets the price.
04-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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Are your measurements actually real degrees, or just a semi-arbitrary table in Hydra? Cam degrees or crank degrees?
I've been reading cam gear results for months and months. A very few people get an overall bump when reducing overlap, but most loose a tad down low and gain a ton up top. Biggest results are in the intake cam. Exh cam can help, but is not nearly as dramatic.
I've been reading cam gear results for months and months. A very few people get an overall bump when reducing overlap, but most loose a tad down low and gain a ton up top. Biggest results are in the intake cam. Exh cam can help, but is not nearly as dramatic.
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04-10-2009, 05:31 PM
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10/4. Your 01 datapoints compare directly to the static cam cars then, as people are reporting 'best overall' around 2-4° retarded ign cam.
Trav, hurry up with the damn 99 gears.
Trav, hurry up with the damn 99 gears.
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04-10-2009, 05:51 PM
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No, not even close. Remember 01-05 non msm intake gears are not static and already dynamically variable timing (VVT).
Which leads me to the thought that MSM cars would probably greatly benefit from the 99/00 version of this product.
Hurry up Trav.
Which leads me to the thought that MSM cars would probably greatly benefit from the 99/00 version of this product.
Hurry up Trav.
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04-10-2009, 06:35 PM
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Damn... more **** to spend money on. Those pieces look the bizzness and appear to have some serious engineering behind them.
I've never heard of aftermarket adj cam gears breaking... is carbon-fiber an option for those worried about it, or simply because they're lighter. If lighter, would these be for guys who've already gone to a lightened valvetrain and need the weight reduction to help with high-rpm?
I found this recent thread about cam-tuning:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t29678/
I'm all about more power with no increase in boost. I'm happy about the research by the 20lb heads in the industry in the cam area. Emilio had that big thread about his measurements on the various Miata cams over the years... and I think he busted some myth about the MSM cams. A set of these gears with an exhintake swap sounds like cheap power.
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Curious... does "The Machine" have adj cam-gears?
I've never heard of aftermarket adj cam gears breaking... is carbon-fiber an option for those worried about it, or simply because they're lighter. If lighter, would these be for guys who've already gone to a lightened valvetrain and need the weight reduction to help with high-rpm?
I found this recent thread about cam-tuning:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t29678/
I'm all about more power with no increase in boost. I'm happy about the research by the 20lb heads in the industry in the cam area. Emilio had that big thread about his measurements on the various Miata cams over the years... and I think he busted some myth about the MSM cams. A set of these gears with an exhintake swap sounds like cheap power.
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Curious... does "The Machine" have adj cam-gears?
The carbons will be stronger, but the main aspect is the lightweight. Its all a piece of a bigger puzzle, so you can add upgrades as you want, but the engine will be more responsive the lighter the rotating sections are.
Hurry up Trav.
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04-10-2009, 07:26 PM
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I'll setup a button with a description box to order. Just put in your color choices and I'll get it processed.
ETA should be by next week, we just have to send them off to the anodizing house to get them treated in the colors you want.
As far as the wear, the color SHOULD not fade. Anodized aluminum is some of the hardest stuff on the planet. Al2O3 has an Rc of 65 which is better then just about the hardest tool steel available. So if it does eventually wear away it should take MANY years to get the job done.
ETA should be by next week, we just have to send them off to the anodizing house to get them treated in the colors you want.
As far as the wear, the color SHOULD not fade. Anodized aluminum is some of the hardest stuff on the planet. Al2O3 has an Rc of 65 which is better then just about the hardest tool steel available. So if it does eventually wear away it should take MANY years to get the job done.
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04-14-2009, 08:26 AM
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I recieved samples of the anodized parts, and they look absolutely sick. Its hard to describe how a machined finish looks when anodized. Kind of like flip flop paint with high gloss and low gloss areas that roll over the part depending on the angle to light. We can get the prime colors on this page http://www.midwesternanodizing.com/alumanodize.html and then they can also do special colors. So if those swatches don't do it for you just let me know, and we can work on something else. We also have anodizing services available to us that could put this kind of color on the gears: http://www.aplusanodizing.com/2color-fade-polished.html
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04-14-2009, 10:01 AM
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I recieved samples of the anodized parts, and they look absolutely sick. Its hard to describe how a machined finish looks when anodized. Kind of like flip flop paint with high gloss and low gloss areas that roll over the part depending on the angle to light. We can get the prime colors on this page Midwestern Anodizing - Aluminum Anodizing and then they can also do special colors. So if those swatches don't do it for you just let me know, and we can work on something else. We also have anodizing services available to us that could put this kind of color on the gears: A Plus Anodizing : Anodizing Paintball Markers
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04-14-2009, 09:44 PM
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I can't find my Camera ha-ha. I'll have to go dig it up so I can show these off. They are test parts anyways not the actual gears. They are apart of an electronic shift kit. I do have a clear anodized piece, definitely just as cool as the rest. I never thought machined parts would come out looking like that!!!
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04-15-2009, 12:06 AM
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That would be a more custom job, since its outside their standard colors. Letme ask what the color would be. It looks like your going for mountain dew green?
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04-15-2009, 10:51 AM
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I've found that most of the foreign countries run about 30 dollars on shipping. To Holland it was 29.56. So total is at 218.56. I'll pm you the paypal. What color would you like?
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04-15-2009, 11:27 AM
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The vinyl for the car has the same colors as the BRAWN F1 cars
which is basically a neon yellow and black. I was hoping to get something close to those colors.
The p-shop was just to show what I was looking to do really, with the black outer and colored inner. I don't mind paying for custom work when its done right.
which is basically a neon yellow and black. I was hoping to get something close to those colors.The p-shop was just to show what I was looking to do really, with the black outer and colored inner. I don't mind paying for custom work when its done right.
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04-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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The vinyl for the car has the same colors as the BRAWN F1 cars
which is basically a neon yellow and black. I was hoping to get something close to those colors.
The p-shop was just to show what I was looking to do really, with the black outer and colored inner. I don't mind paying for custom work when its done right.
which is basically a neon yellow and black. I was hoping to get something close to those colors.The p-shop was just to show what I was looking to do really, with the black outer and colored inner. I don't mind paying for custom work when its done right.
The sample watches below will all have that kind of machined finished, and the bright spots move around as you move it in the light.
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