Boundary Engineering and WeaponX Coil On Plug PNP Pre-Order List
 

Pre-Orders are now available!

WeaponX coils:
Specifications:
Output: 150mJ
Voltage: 45,000-60,000 volts
Spark duration: 1.2 microseconds
Durability testing: Tested in house maximum load 32,000 rpm full sequential equivalent at 8 hours. No sign of wear, temperature in operating range. Higher RPM capable.

Ignition Control Unit:
Specifications:
Maximum R.P.M.: 16,000 wasted spark, 32,000 full sequential tested.
Tachometer signal generation: Tested and functional
Dwell reduction: Tested and functional
Diagnostic pin for 89-93: Tested and functional
Correct timing fail-safe circuitry: Tested and functional
Redundant circuitry: Tested and functional
Potted in P.C.B. epoxy: Tested and functional

Plug and Play Models

1. 89-93
2. 94-05

**Regardless of engine select the years based on the harness you are using.

Wire Loom
Specifications:
Wires: Teflon coated silver tinned Mil-Spec aerospace grade
Connectors: SAE certified
Wire Seals: SAE certified
Shrinkwrap: Mil-Spec

http://www.boundaryengineering.com/pimage/cop.jpg

Exhilarating Performance
Ultra-high R.P.M. and 5-bar boost capable with tip in response that will bring a smile to your face. This ignition system is able to light nearly any mixture that's in the chamber, and because of this there are no more misfires or poor burning mixtures. With a literal lightning bolt in your chamber every single ignition sequence and hammer of the piston will make your crank beg for mercy. Just for comparison the stock system outputs about 50mJ of energy at the plug with a spark duration of 0.5 microseconds. The WeaponX coils we specially integrated into our system output 300% that amount of energy and do it over 240% the spark duration of the stock coils. It is like hooking 3 of the stock coils up together and lighting them all off at once. Beyond this with up to 60,000 volts on tap spark breakdown is absolutely not a problem. No more tiny gaps and misfires. Open up your sparkplug gaps on those high horsepower nitro-methane injected, turbocharged, and supercharged engines for more power, better track times, and fewer trips to pits for fuel.


Plug and Play Installation
The installation is a snap with this system. Remove the spark plugs and the coil pack connectors. Plug the OEM connectors into the ignition control unit and put the WeaponX coils down onto the spark plug. The WeaponX coils engage in three locations. One is the valve cover itself using the grippers on the side. The next is the copper contact at the bottom which tightly wraps the electrode for a strong connection and a more rigid placement. Lastly a rubber piece which covers the electrical connection engages the spark plug insulator. With these three connection places the coils are solidly mounted and ready for all the g's, bumps, and wheel hop you can throw at them. On top of this great way to connect your coil to the sparkplug it makes the installation look factory. There is no "mounting plate" because we searched until we found a coil that fits the Miata valve cover perfectly. The finish looks O.E.M., even though the power you unleash won't be.</p>


Tested Reliability
The product has been evaluated and reviewed by 2 professionally licensed electrical engineers as well as our own electrical engineering staff here at Boundary Engineering to produce a long life of at least 5 years. We want you to win races with our products, and tested reliable performance is what keeps you winning again and again. It has been thoroughly tested and redesigned to meet that goal as its now on its 6th generation of design. We are confident that with all the testing and work we have put into this that plugging the Boundary Engineering coil on plug system in is the last thing you'll have to do to your ignition system for a very long time.

Pre-order price is $389. That's a $20 savings over the $409 retail price.

Delivery is approximately two weeks.

The button is up for the pre-order. Please put all comments about the COP system in the other thread and keep this one for just making the pre-orders.
Boundary Engineering COP System Pre-Order Link

I'm in for a 94 1.8 Link

Dean Chorzempa 89-93

I've pm'd you a few times Travis about this working with my 1.8 in a 1990, 1.6 harness/1.8 motor.

This will jive correct? Might want to add that to the details as a few ppl have 90's with 1.8's.

Yea that is correct. Select the harness based on what year harness you are using. If your using the 89-93 harness then that is the year you want. If you using the 1.8L harness then that is the year you want. The COP system doesn't care what motor its firing into it just needs to be able to hook up.

i might be down to get a set if my ignition system doesnt work good enough for my power goal of 180whp on n/a 2.0L

The final product has more/better shielding of the wires, yes?

I'm in for a 1994 1.8 MSPNP.
Shipping to 7547TK in The Netherlands.

1994 1.8, shipping to austria

Final product uses mil-spec heat shrink wrap. We don't need more shielding then that as its just 1.6 amps at 12 volts thats going down the wires. Your headlights draw more power then that. This system gets rid of all the high voltage interference like sparkplug wires give off. Also the wires themselves are teflon coated and silver tinned. The exact same thing used in avionics and will easily outlast the life of the vehicle. The shrinkwrap is really for looks.

Shipping would be an additional $30

Shipping would also be an additional $30

Ok.

One more question: what is holding the COPS down in their hole? Is mounting hardware included? Do you have an as-installed pic?

EDIT: Mods, please move this BS from me to the other COPS thread... sorry.

It doesn't need any mounting hardware. It has grippers just like the OEM sparkplug does. So when it is pushed down into the hole it grips on the valve cover. The copper connector that it engages also clamps very tightly to the spark plug electrode. On top of these there is an extra rubber piece which clamps around the spark plug insulator just below the electrode. With those three engagement points there is no more hardware required. I don't have an installed pic with the new coils. I probably won't have one until just before the pre-orders go out as the kit I'm using now is a piecemeal kit we use for abusing and modifying on the fly.

If you have further questions please move them over to the other thread. I was trying to keep this one for orders only.

thank you for info :bigtu:

Put me on the list for a set for my 01.

Boundary Engineering COP System

Order page is up!

I just ordered for my 1994 1.8. Are you sending them out July 1st? Can't wait...
Will need a MSPNP howto as well...

Yea July 1st! We might have them before that too, we'll have to see.

I'll let you guys know what you need to do to run these on aftermarket ECU's. You just have to change your dwell settings to 4ms all the way across the voltage band, the controller takes care of all of that, but I'll have documentation on it.

Doubtful. What about heat? Send a set my way and I'll install them and melt the wiring for you, then I'll send it back so you can re-think that.

How do you figure? 1.6ampsx12volts = 19.2 watts, not a lot of power.

Who cares how much power is going through there.... get them on a car that is ABUSED on track and you will see what I mean.

Edit: It may be possible that the heat shrink he is using will hold up, but I see no mention of this, only the amount of power going through the wires which is not a concern compared to under hood temperature and valve cover temperature.

Teflon melts at between 500-600 degrees F. Planning on running this wiring inbetween the exhaust primaries?

OEMs use fat shielding for a reason:
http://stillmaninteriors.netfirms.co...s/DSCN1281.jpg
OTOH, my injectors are on skinny ass wires and hold up more track abuse than my manifold studs so far...

I think the OEMs may do that primarily for safety concerns. So they're not getting sued by some idiot that electrocuted himself somehow. Anyone on here that does that will just get mocked by the forum, and maybe other forums too.

Every solder I know of melts before 500*F. If you've melted the wires, then every solder point under the hood is dripping.

There is no reason to discourage customers based on something that isn't backed up by any scientific fact. Teflon is one of the highest melting thermoset polymers available. There is a reason this wire rides in F-22 wing tips. I gauruntee you those plastic pieces shown in that picture are not made from teflon because they would cost probably 200-300 dollars. This is the most high qaulity wire, and insulator combination available ANYWHERE, and if it melts the insulation on these wires, then it will also melt any other protections put over the wires except for exotic high temperature epoxies that cost in excess of 200 dollars a gallon.

Keep in mind, that your cylinder head is approxiamtely the same temperature as you water. The eviroment should never exceed 120*C on a normal basis or your water is literally boiling in the head, and your oil is cooking.

Hey Travis, we still good for a July ship date?

On track so far!

Got an update.

I suspect the ship date will be pushed back a little bit just because of the sheer number of orders. I'm getting ready to take down the pre-orders so we stop getting them. We will be shipping about 3 times the amount we expected. I'll let you know when it goes out. We don't want to create a slurry of shipments. So when we get every single pre-order done and boxxed they will go out on the same day.

I will post here as well as send an email when the units do go out.
Travis

Dude, just divide them in three groups and ship accordingly. And put me in the first group :)

yeah, ditto. Ship 'em out in the order received, FIFO bro. How much of a delay are we talking about?

First to pay should be the first to receive. This sounds fair to me, especially if I was quick with my payment.

Well its a little more complicated then that because of how these kits are assembled. We're only talking about next Monday, its not going to be like a week or two.

That's cool, makes sense.

Update? Were these shipped on Monday?

I have coils but no housings or printed circuit boards yet. Manufacturers just missed the expected completion times on their orders. When I get the parts to put them together they will go out.

So how did we get from shipping on Monday to no housings or printed circuit boards????? Sounds like we're not being completely honest about progress. I don't mind waiting but you should not make promises that you can't keep.

Well manufacturers give me false shipping estimates, and then I update my customers with these estimates thinking they are right. Just like the place that did my frame rails. I waited and waited on them they ended up shipping products 2 weeks after they qouted the absolute last shipping date.

I do the best I can with keeping the most up to date information out there, but if I get told one thing and another happens I just don't really know what to do or say. I prepared and had extra people ready to jump in and help me all last week for a shipment that never came.

Travis, you're probably doing the best you can, but: people on the Internet are spoiled and expect everything to by in stock and expect same day delivery for anything they order anywhere - so do I.

You should always add some marging for yourself. I learned this too. When your supplier says delivery in 4-6 weeks, you reply back 6-8. That is if you don't need to do anything yourself, otherwise add your own time to that, so a week for assembly, Q&A, packacing is nothing.

So, back to square one: when can we expect this to ship out? That is mailed out a.k.a. no longer in your hands?

Just keep us informed as things change and the reasons for the delays (so, does this give you more time to work on the intake manifolds?).

I'm hoping next week. I'll work all night to put them together if I have to, but no more then 2-3 weeks or I'll have some companies by the throat. You can't miss a ship date by 2 months!

The manifolds have been getting attention, as I've designed more and more of these roller throttles, I'm starting to lean towards them instead of throttle plates again. I've been designing a replacement roller throttle for the main throttle on the Miata, and the smaller ones that would make up an independent throttle body would be a much easier task, and the hype.... wow. Imagine the first time some unsuspecting gear head opens the roller throttle and sees nothing but intake valve. :drool:

Thanks for the update. As for the manifold comment, I was just joking. I'm about to spend all my manifold money on axles. :cry:

Are you having your manufacturers build you enough of these setups that you will have some extra in stock after the group buy?

I'm intending to buy one, but was planning on waiting until after the initial batch went out and was verified as good shit by everyone. Worth the extra $20 for me.

Yea, once I get these shipments in I'll have a constant supply of inventory.

Hey Travis, bring it on! Can we please get a time line here?

I'm not going to say less then two weeks.

Did these make the new ship date?

I wanted to let you guys know I have freight slips for the materials. As everything arrives it will be first come first serve. Thank you all for your patience!

Thanks for the update Travis.

Retail price is $439 on your website now, is this assuming $30 shipping or something? What happened to $409?

I had to adjust it up after the first order because some costs wern't accounted for. For instance paypal gets 15 dollars just for ordaining me with their services. There were also other shipping costs from here and there, and then the out the door shipping costs. The price for board assembly also went up to some degree. The combined effect brought the cost up to $439 total cost.

Did these ship today? If so, can you PM me my tracking number. Thanks!

Where am I in the list actually? What does your calender say? What is holding this up?

I'm actually holding things up for once. I'll put a list of kits shipped, where you are on the list, and when you can expect delivery on Monday. The goal is to have everyone with COPS by next week.

including the international buyers - like me? :cool:

Update?

Ship list is up.

We had our own teething problems here with potting, manufacturing, the mounting boards, and so forth so it was slowed down a little, but not much.

Travis

yeah, 3th place,i´ll hope the customs is fast :bigtu:

7 is a holy number ;)

Great progress Travis. Any pics of the final product?

Pics?

Also, TravisR, can you pm me a tracking nr if you have one? Customs is a drag here...

Same here please.

In for documentation so I read me in. Thanks.
PM shipping No?

There are the default MSPNP9495 Dwell settings:

Have these items shipped?