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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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I weighed my Dynalites, and fresh out of the box they were 1.5 kg.
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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So I'm most likely going to pick these brackets up within the next few weeks.

After reading the thread, there are a few options for balancing the whole system out. What, in your guys opinion is the easiest/bolt on way to balance everything out? 1.8L rears + proportion valve? MSM rear? What has been the easiest set up to make work without fiddling and making a million adjustments?

And just to clarify again, the calipers we need are the .81 thickness? 120-6806?
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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prop valve
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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prop + 1.6?

prop + 1.8?

prop + MSM?

prop + flyin miata bracket + 1.8?
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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I use a prop valve and stock 1.8 rear brakes on my car. The calipers are 120-6806s.
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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Sounds good!

Should I go with the Tilton or Willwood prop valve, is there any preference between them?
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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I used the Wilwood valve due to ease of install, I've never played with the Tilton valve so I wouldn't have any setup advice for you. I thought it might be nice for playing with the bias on-track, but for me the Wilwood valve seems to be a lot more set-and-forget than I expected it to be.
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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That's what I figured. Looking at pictures of both, the Wilwood seems simpler and easier to use.

Just for kicks... here's a pic of stock 1.6L brakes after 2 session of our local track. Off a friend's turbo miata...

Old Feb 25, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon
So I'm most likely going to pick these brackets up within the next few weeks.

After reading the thread, there are a few options for balancing the whole system out. What, in your guys opinion is the easiest/bolt on way to balance everything out? 1.8L rears + proportion valve? MSM rear? What has been the easiest set up to make work without fiddling and making a million adjustments?
I wrote a spreadsheet:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t44198/

You will get MUCH better bias by increasing the rear brake torque first, THEN add an adjustable prop valve if you feel it can still be improved. The main advantage is that bias will be closer to correct at a single setting of the adj prop valve, over different surfaces.

The use of the 94~97 1.8 rear rotors with the larger-pistoned 01+ "factory big brakes" rear calipers is a damn near perfect match to an 11" front kit with 2 x 1.38" pistons.

They are $80+ per side at Rockauto. Cheaper and lighter than going to a Goodwin rear BBK or the factory rear big brake rotors + adapters.
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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The calipers are that much? ($80)?

Are they a bolt on affair without adapters and match the 94-97 rotor?

Who knew you could get a full on big brake kit for so little! I'm starting to like this more and more.
Old Feb 25, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
I thought it might be nice for playing with the bias on-track, but for me the Wilwood valve seems to be a lot more set-and-forget than I expected it to be.
Even after an alignment and tire change, my Wilwood proportioning valve was still at or close to optimum (front lock just before the rears)

Originally Posted by falcon
The calipers are that much? ($80)?

125 each, but that is chump change in the world of real brakes

Are they a bolt on affair without adapters and match the 94-97 rotor?

I assume your talking about the rear brakes? For the rear, M-tuned offers a bracket that allows 94+ non sport owners a way to run larger sport rotors.

Who knew you could get a full on big brake kit for so little! I'm starting to like this more and more.

That is why I went down this road, and I'm sure many more will also

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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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2003 (big pistons) rear calipers would bolt onto a 94~00 car using the 94~00 pads and rotors.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
2003 (big pistons) rear calipers would bolt onto a 94~00 car using the 94~00 pads and rotors.
Any benefits to them when using an adjustable proportioning valve? hmmm
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Pls re-read my post above, and the thread I linked to.
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Nick/crashnscar, I pm'd you
Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Oscar, Nick is in Canada this week for spring break. If you need a more immediate reply, shoot me a PM or email: info -at- trackspeed engineering -dot- com.
Old Mar 25, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Sweet, now get me my invoice
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this just in...it looks like either my spacers collapsed or my spindle bent, not the brake kit. Yeah!!!!!!!for trackspeed.
Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
this just in...it looks like either my spacers collapsed or my spindle bent, not the brake kit. Yeah!!!!!!!for trackspeed.
Wut spacers? Keep us posted, I'm sure you will.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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I just installed these....... WOW, never going back to a traditional caliper. After figuring out how easy it is to install pads, I now know why everyone does street pads and track pads with these calipers.

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