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Old 12-13-2011, 11:05 PM   #201
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Never knew porsche engines were so expensive. Makes me happy I can get a block for like $500 at most.
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Never knew porsche engines were so expensive. Makes me happy I can get a block for like $500 at most.
"Nice things cost money."
- Oskar Schindler.

I am leaning very heavily in the direction of a 996 at this point. I've always wanted a 911, anyway. Just always has this generic fear of the ****-o-meter. But my recent experience mirrors Clarkson's, in that the ***** seem to be migrating into the Audi camp.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:17 PM   #203
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I've seen 996's for sale with the Euro M030 suspension already installed.
And you could make your own metal-flakes-in-oil-detector cheap!
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:56 PM   #204
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:28 PM   #205
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2002+ 3.6 Carrera 2 that comes with the wider turbo body and track, GT3 bodykit and factory sport exhaust/tubi + M030&220 ! Maybe cherry on top of the cake, GT3 seats. No Silver!
You could do better, but real GT3/GT2 cost more than arm.

Some food for your thoughts

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One thing to add is that PDC on Porsche is rare, so just know that you'll be buying original or even more expensive wheels.

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Old 12-14-2011, 06:05 PM   #206
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They are really no different from the N/A models as far as reliability, and running cost. Some parts will cost more for a turbo by virtue of being the upgraded bits compared to the standard car (brakes, clutch).
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I of course have all the tools and used to get paid to rebuild those engines, and even if I could afford one, I wouldn't buy a turbo. They are tons of fun and VERY fast, but the potential for a $6000 bill just in machining costs and new parts for one missed shift is enough to scare me away.
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But that's one opinion
I know one of the biggest pitfalls to avoid with buying cars like that is, because you can buy it for 65% off the original price doesn't mean that the service will be 65% cheaper. That's a big concern for me because I am (A) value conscious and (B) don't like to work on cars.

The biggest hurdle for me seems to be name premium. As much as I am enamored with the idea of the 911... I don't think I could stomach paying the same amount for a 20-year old 911 Turbo that you would pay for a 10-year old Viper or a 5-year old Z06.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:49 PM   #207
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No Silver!
Y U no like Silver?

I've actually been putting a lot of thought into this.

On the one hand, my intuitive desire when it comes to convertibles is always red. Thus far, 3 of my 5 ragtops have been red (though I must admit, this is by coincidence rather than design.)

On the other hand, a red 911 is both stereotypical and undignified. Silver seems like more of a German color.

On the gripping hand, as a general rule, I detest silver / white on the grounds that they are soulless and bland.

On the thrusting hand, I saw a 996 Cabrio at lunch today which was a sort of very dark blue, and that color works very well on it.


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One thing to add is that PDC on Porsche is rare, so just know that you'll be buying original or even more expensive wheels.
PDC = Porsche Deutschebag Control?

(Seriously, I'm on page 7 of the Google results, and so far the only thing I know is that it somehow involves holes in the rear bumper cover. How this relates to the wheels escapes me.)
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As much as I am enamored with the idea of the 911... I don't think I could stomach paying the same amount for a 20-year old 911 Turbo that you would pay for a 10-year old Viper or a 5-year old Z06.
For $25k I can (it seems) get a fairly nice 10 year old 911, or I can get a brand new Kia Sedona.

Hmmm... Porsche or Kia?
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You need to ask? Kia, obviously.

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Ban finger... twitching...
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Old 12-14-2011, 11:48 PM   #211
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ban him joe... it wont ever address the simple fact that the porsche does not come with this:

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Well if you meet any chicks in the Porsche make sure you take them out on the first date in the miata rocking a flower shirt.
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Damn this thread is stupid. You won't impress anyone by trying to impress them.

If you want a more refined and luxurious car, get something that you want personally, something that will make you feel good about yourself.
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I think he wants the 996
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For $25k I can (it seems) get a fairly nice 10 year old 911, or I can get a brand new Kia Sedona.

Hmmm... Porsche or Kia?
My problem is this completely irrational fixation on the "alpha trim" of some car models. That is, it would be hard for me to imagine buying a 3-series below a 335i or M, a non-turbo 911 or non-S Cayman/Boxster, a non Z06 C6, etc. Even though the mid-level trims of the cars might be perfectly adequate, I just have a hard time warming up to the "lesser" versions.

An exception might be a 930 with the wide body and a higher output (~300 BHP) non-turbo engine considering its ~2800 pound curb weight.

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I think he wants the 996
I want a 996.

(Well, I actually want a 997, but I don't want to pay $35k for one.)
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I couldn't read all 10 pages, but can anyone tell me if the OP is still considering a late model E39, specifically the 03' M-sport? It's really the only logical choice...
For the love of sweet baby Jesus in a tuxedo... go into your OPTIONS menu and change the "POSTS PER PAGE" to 60... that way this thread is only on it's 4th page now.
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My problem is this completely irrational fixation on the "alpha trim" of some car models. That is, it would be hard for me to imagine buying a 3-series below a 335i or M, a non-turbo 911 or non-S Cayman/Boxster, a non Z06 C6, etc. Even though the mid-level trims of the cars might be perfectly adequate, I just have a hard time warming up to the "lesser" versions.
This is why I'd never buy a 11'+ V6 mustang over a new 11"+ 5.0, I'd rather have neither.
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:52 PM   #219
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co-worker of mine drives a 996 carrera 4s.
gorgeous car, and is flawless for your goals/plans.

His is a very dark blue as well
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