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Old 06-12-2022, 10:29 PM
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Don't even pretend like you didn't casually pull a better laptime than me, in my own car, on your very first time driving it, and then wait thirteen years and suddenly be like "whoa, deer!"

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I did in fact get my *** handed to me in April of 2009 by this guy.


Sidebar: Jesus tapdancing christ on a popsicle stick, I still remember how early I had to wake up in order to make it to that humiliation on time. It was, like 7am or some ridiculous bullshit along those lines, when polar penguins are still ******* hibernating. Why is Cracker Barrel even open at that time? How can a loving God create such misery?
Your car was far more capable than mine. After wrestling with mine yours was a joy to drive!

And yes, it was a ridiculously early morning for you to drive all the way up there. I had forgotten all about that day. Thanks for the memories.

Here is a pic of one of my mechanics who installed a hydraulically driven 15kw generator and this 3500lbs. electromagnet on an excavator I sold last week.
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Old 06-13-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Here is a pic of one of my mechanics who installed a hydraulically driven 15kw generator and this 3500lbs. electromagnet on an excavator I sold last week.
A 15kw hydraulically powered generator? How much hydraulic-pumping capacity do those machines have? I'd always assumed they were geared for high pressure but relatively small flowrates.



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The metric system is optimized for science and engineering

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I beg to differ.

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Clever meme, one that conveniently overlooks the fact that NASA used metric calculations on all Apollo missions (which were converted to Imperial only for final display).



The Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) was one of the first computers to use integrated circuits. In the 1960s it was the state-of-the-art. Its performance was comparable to a first generation home computer from the late 1970s.

By choosing to use SI, NASA’s software engineers removed the need for the extra multiplication calculations that working with imperial units would have entailed. The consequent reduction in the number of mathematical operations required by the navigation and guidance programs contributed to the task of making the most efficient use of the onboard computer’s limited processing power and memory capacity.

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Clever meme, one that conveniently overlooks the fact that NASA used metric calculations on all Apollo missions (which were converted to Imperial only for final display).
Pesky Canadian. Always trying to be our HAT. Does this make you happy?

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Wasn't the fact that some folks on the ground at NASA accidently did math relating to thrust in Imperial units, whereas the spacecraft was designed in proper Rebel units, the reason why the Mars Climate Orbiter crashed into the planet while attempting to settle into orbit in 1999, thus ending a multi-year, $327 million dollar mission just as it was beginning?

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Pesky Canadian. Always trying to be our HAT. Does this make you happy?
If'n fact you actually landed on the moon. I saw Capricorn One*, I read the conspiracy websites. Now excuse me, I have to go and renew my membership to the Flat Earth Society.


*Yes, I know Capricorn One was about a faked landing on Mars.
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OUCH: Metric vs Imperial Units: How NASA lost a 327 Million Dollar Mission to Mars
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This has Joe Perez written all over it (as in, something he would do).


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And just think, they could have solved it all by using a stronger typing system in the compiler.

Proposed new rocket called the "Baguette One":





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Joe, that particular machine only has 160hp. It utilizes two main hydraulic pumps and the genset is only connected to one of them. And it doesn't use even half of the pump's capacity. Other functions that use that pump can be used simultaneously. The system pressure is limited to 5000-something psi. The maximum flow rates of the pumps are listed in the pdf under "DOWNLOAD SPECIFICATIONS" on this page

Though the machine is marketed in the states as a Link Belt it is made in Japan by Sumitomo and is powered by a 4 cylinder, 5.2 liter Isuzu engine mated to Kawasaki hydraulic pumps.
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The maximum flow rates of the pumps are listed in the pdf under "DOWNLOAD SPECIFICATIONS" on this page
Only 34,600 lb digging force? Pfft. That thing could barely pick up Hustler's mom.



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Only 34,600 lb digging force? Pfft. That thing could barely pick up Hustler's mom.



Hustler the bicyclist? I think I remember that guy, lol.

Here's a 25,000 lbs. dozer on a car trailer rated to carry 7k lbs.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Hustler the bicyclist? I think I remember that guy, lol.
Yeah, the one who thought he was the ultimate e-thug, but never actually got any good at it.

I need to come up with a new "universal target for all of my random insults," since he rarely comes around here anymore.




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Originally Posted by codrus
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The one that drives me nuts is people who insist on celsius temperatures for everything. That's not any more natural than fahrenheit, and it's only convenient if you're doing chemistry.
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You do realise that the celsius scale is based on the freezing and boiling point of water at sea level? (0*C and 100*C respectively, nice and "metric")

I'd say that's pretty "natural" given that water makes up 71% of the earth's surface (60% of the human body).

Ice vs water affects your natural environment so a temperature scale based on water IS more "natural" than fahrenheit which was is a temperature scale "pulled out of the ****" of a European in 1724 - it makes no "natural" sense at all.
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Originally Posted by Lokiel

You do realise that the celsius scale is based on the freezing and boiling point of water at sea level? (0*C and 100*C respectively, nice and "metric")

I'd say that's pretty "natural" given that water makes up 71% of the earth's surface (60% of the human body).

Ice vs water affects your natural environment so a temperature scale based on water IS more "natural" than fahrenheit which was is a temperature scale "pulled out of the ****" of a European in 1724 - it makes no "natural" sense at all.


I've heard that toilets flush "backwards" in Australia, so why should we really listen to ANYONE from Australia about water anyway?
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You do realise that the celsius scale is based on the freezing and boiling point of water at sea level? (0*C and 100*C respectively, nice and "metric")

I'd say that's pretty "natural" given that water makes up 71% of the earth's surface (60% of the human body).

Ice vs water affects your natural environment so a temperature scale based on water IS more "natural" than fahrenheit which was is a temperature scale "pulled out of the ****" of a European in 1724 - it makes no "natural" sense at all.
Yes, thank you, I do know how it's defined.

You're thinking too locally. Water is some teeny percentage of the universe, and what's magical about Earth's sea level air pressure at this moment in time? It was higher in the past, and if you're on Mars then those numbers are meaningless.

Of all the unit scales that average people deal with in everyday life, temperature is the one that's the most arbitrary. You don't do math with it except in science/engineering fields (and in that case you probably should be using Kelvin instead). You're not converting between centi-degrees and kilo-degrees, you're just looking at a weather report and relating it to your past memories of what that temperature is like. At least with Fahrenheit it's defined such that most of the temperatures you'll encounter in everyday life are nicely spread out over the range of 0 to 100, instead of all squished down at the bottom of the scale. You don't even need negative numbers as long as you don't live in uninhabitable wastelands like New York or Canada.

As I said above, if you're in search of truly "natural" scales you need to use the Planck units. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units Once you've given up on that and accepted that you're using units that are defined based on human experiences, you've thrown objectivity out the window and are just looking for the units that are most convenient for your purposes.



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Originally Posted by cordycord
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I've heard that toilets flush "backwards" in Australia, so why should we really listen to ANYONE from Australia about water anyway?

... if you encounter a toilet that flushes backwards, you're using a bidet

You're referring to the swirling of draining water:
The rotation of the earth gives rise to an effect that tends to accelerate draining water in a clockwise direction in the Northern hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere.

PS: When I flushed my first US "dunny bowl" I got worried that the damn thing was going to overflow, the water kept flowing and swirling higher and higher up the bowl for what seemed like an eternity.
In Australia we're very water-conscious due to the country being so dry and our dunnies flush very efficiently water-wise, they dump water forcefully for a short burst to flush the crap down (you will never see our dunnies swirling, there's not enough water in the bowl, unless you've got plumbing issues).
I never understood the long, slow swirling of US dunnies, it seems to promote smearing the entire bowl with faecal matter!
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Originally Posted by Lokiel
The rotation of the earth gives rise to an effect that tends to accelerate draining water in a clockwise direction in the Northern hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere.
The Coriolis Effect. Anyone who hasn't watched The Expanse, the best hard-science-fiction series ever produced, IMO, should drop everything and binge watch all six seasons. The books are fantastic, too.

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