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09-10-2012, 11:50 PM
#222
With ATT, I have tethered with flashed roms, Barnacle, Foxfi. Never went over a gig of tethered usage in a month. Never got in trouble.
I just switched to Verizon from ATT. With their "share everything" plan, tethering is included for free. It is more expensive than sprint, and most others, but they're the only people who have decent signal at my work, home, and school.
It sure is nice to have LTE wherever I go. Oh and to send/receive calls.
Got the SGS3. This pentile matrix crap has me pretty disappointed in the display sharpness coming from the HTC One X. I also noticed it is much less visible in direct sunlight. I still have the ATT line so I'm doing some side-by-side comparisons just for fun. Also, there are a few nice things about the interface on the One X I like, that I wish were on the sgs3. I will see what I can do about adding this features once I start flashing roms and stuff, but I see no point in doing so right now.
Final judgement after day one with both phones side-by-side, They're both damn good devices.
I just switched to Verizon from ATT. With their "share everything" plan, tethering is included for free. It is more expensive than sprint, and most others, but they're the only people who have decent signal at my work, home, and school.
It sure is nice to have LTE wherever I go. Oh and to send/receive calls.
Got the SGS3. This pentile matrix crap has me pretty disappointed in the display sharpness coming from the HTC One X. I also noticed it is much less visible in direct sunlight. I still have the ATT line so I'm doing some side-by-side comparisons just for fun. Also, there are a few nice things about the interface on the One X I like, that I wish were on the sgs3. I will see what I can do about adding this features once I start flashing roms and stuff, but I see no point in doing so right now.
Final judgement after day one with both phones side-by-side, They're both damn good devices.
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09-10-2012, 11:57 PM
#224
AMOLEDs don't have backlights BTW. The pixels themselves are what light up. VS LCD's where the pixels block certain colors from the backlight.
There is very little difference in brightness from my Captivate (SGS1) to the SGS3. Neither are very readable in direct sunlight. The 3 is a marginal improvement.
The one thing I don't like about AMOLED technology across the board, is the white balance. Hold one next to ANY LCD-based phone, and you'll notice the whites are very blue compared to the LCD. The reason for this is the blue pixels on AMOLED displays wear out faster than green and red.
I'm gonna fire up my Xrite Eyeone Display Pro and give you guys a lumen reading for One X vs SGS3.
There is very little difference in brightness from my Captivate (SGS1) to the SGS3. Neither are very readable in direct sunlight. The 3 is a marginal improvement.
The one thing I don't like about AMOLED technology across the board, is the white balance. Hold one next to ANY LCD-based phone, and you'll notice the whites are very blue compared to the LCD. The reason for this is the blue pixels on AMOLED displays wear out faster than green and red.
I'm gonna fire up my Xrite Eyeone Display Pro and give you guys a lumen reading for One X vs SGS3.
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09-11-2012, 12:00 AM
#225
Weird. Maybe the vibrant got a better screen and I just forget. Its hard to read the thing at night its so ******* bright with the brightness turned all the way down. I've been putting a 20% screen filter on it for a while. With it cranked I can read the thing on the beach.
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09-11-2012, 01:14 AM
#226
Hahah. Yes. Screen Filter is required if you don't want to be blinded in a dark room. The reason they have the minimum brightness so high is the colors will screw up beyond the minimum brightness setting they normally allow you. Captivate, Fascinate, Vibrant, all came with the same display.
I have done a test. I set my Eyone Display Pro to continuous measurement in HCFR. I then set each phone to full brightness and displayed a 100% white picture on each display. First at ~50% coverage window, then at 100% coverage window. I record the resultant ftLumen reading for each coverage percent. I also record the color error percentage, with the current target being that of HDTV Rec709 as defined by the International Telecommunication Union. The color temperature target is ~6500 Kelvin. Generally, this is what you will calibrate a display to nowadays. I threw in a couple phones I had laying around for comparison. The R, G, and B stand for Red, Green, and Blue, respectively. The percentage represent how much over or under the target that color is, with 100% being correct. Generally, this software will keep green at 100%, and adjustments will be made to R and B. I have omitted the RGB data for the 50% window, because it remained constant at 50% coverage and 100% coverage for all phones.
SGS3
50% Window: 70 ftL 83%R 103%G 112%B
100% Window: 43 ftL
One X
100%Window: 126 ftL 98%R 99%G 105%B
Iphone 4
100% Window: 129ftL 92%R 100%G 117%B
Captivate (SGS1)
50% Window: 91ftL 66%R 108%G 116%B
100% Window: 85ftL
Keep in mind: The Captivate display has many, many hours on it. It is almost 2 years old and has spent many nights with the display stuck on. It has surely decreased from maximum output since new.
This is far from comprehensive. To do more thorough testing would require going through a grey scale and color gamut test for each phone. I may do that in the future. It would be entertaining.
Wait a second, you're telling me the SGS3 is dimmer than the old captivate? Even when displaying a smaller window than the captivate? Yup.
As you can see from the results, and as I may have stated earlier in this thread, the screen on the HTC One X is very accurate, and brighter than the SGS3. In order of highest to lowest, disregarding size, I would prefer: One X, Iphone 4, SGS3, Captivate. The white balance of the Captivate is very cold, rendering it unacceptable to me.
I have always likened the AMOLED as the plasma display of phones. This has been proven even more true after measuring decreased output at 100% coverage windows. Most plasmas also utilize this method of power management as a way to meet EPA requirements. On a phone, power limiting is to save battery life. While watching a typical movie, rarely will the display need to display anywhere near the output of a 100% white 100%Coverage window, but while browsing the web on your phone, a white background is very common.
I did not measure black levels because these devices will display at levels far lower than my spectrophotometer is capable of reading reliably. Knowing the two technologies, I will say that AMOLED is also akin to plasma, and is capable of extremely low output, whereas LCDs will always have to deal with the light bleeding through pixels from the backlight.
Ok, too drunk to continue on now. Bye bye.
I have done a test. I set my Eyone Display Pro to continuous measurement in HCFR. I then set each phone to full brightness and displayed a 100% white picture on each display. First at ~50% coverage window, then at 100% coverage window. I record the resultant ftLumen reading for each coverage percent. I also record the color error percentage, with the current target being that of HDTV Rec709 as defined by the International Telecommunication Union. The color temperature target is ~6500 Kelvin. Generally, this is what you will calibrate a display to nowadays. I threw in a couple phones I had laying around for comparison. The R, G, and B stand for Red, Green, and Blue, respectively. The percentage represent how much over or under the target that color is, with 100% being correct. Generally, this software will keep green at 100%, and adjustments will be made to R and B. I have omitted the RGB data for the 50% window, because it remained constant at 50% coverage and 100% coverage for all phones.
SGS3
50% Window: 70 ftL 83%R 103%G 112%B
100% Window: 43 ftL
One X
100%Window: 126 ftL 98%R 99%G 105%B
Iphone 4
100% Window: 129ftL 92%R 100%G 117%B
Captivate (SGS1)
50% Window: 91ftL 66%R 108%G 116%B
100% Window: 85ftL
Keep in mind: The Captivate display has many, many hours on it. It is almost 2 years old and has spent many nights with the display stuck on. It has surely decreased from maximum output since new.
This is far from comprehensive. To do more thorough testing would require going through a grey scale and color gamut test for each phone. I may do that in the future. It would be entertaining.
Wait a second, you're telling me the SGS3 is dimmer than the old captivate? Even when displaying a smaller window than the captivate? Yup.
As you can see from the results, and as I may have stated earlier in this thread, the screen on the HTC One X is very accurate, and brighter than the SGS3. In order of highest to lowest, disregarding size, I would prefer: One X, Iphone 4, SGS3, Captivate. The white balance of the Captivate is very cold, rendering it unacceptable to me.
I have always likened the AMOLED as the plasma display of phones. This has been proven even more true after measuring decreased output at 100% coverage windows. Most plasmas also utilize this method of power management as a way to meet EPA requirements. On a phone, power limiting is to save battery life. While watching a typical movie, rarely will the display need to display anywhere near the output of a 100% white 100%Coverage window, but while browsing the web on your phone, a white background is very common.
I did not measure black levels because these devices will display at levels far lower than my spectrophotometer is capable of reading reliably. Knowing the two technologies, I will say that AMOLED is also akin to plasma, and is capable of extremely low output, whereas LCDs will always have to deal with the light bleeding through pixels from the backlight.
Ok, too drunk to continue on now. Bye bye.
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09-11-2012, 01:26 AM
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Just got a Nexus 7, its awesome.
Also, NO FLASH SUPPORT! ZOMG I THOUGHT STEVE JOBS **** RAPE MACHINE **** FLASH HATE INTERNET STUPID
No biggie, I was able to manually install it. Just thought it was interesting that Google is also trying to throw its weight behind HTML 5 just like Apple has, the difference being that Apple is evil when they do it.
Also, NO FLASH SUPPORT! ZOMG I THOUGHT STEVE JOBS **** RAPE MACHINE **** FLASH HATE INTERNET STUPID
No biggie, I was able to manually install it. Just thought it was interesting that Google is also trying to throw its weight behind HTML 5 just like Apple has, the difference being that Apple is evil when they do it.
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09-11-2012, 04:00 AM
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Just got a Nexus 7, its awesome.
Also, NO FLASH SUPPORT! ZOMG I THOUGHT STEVE JOBS **** RAPE MACHINE **** FLASH HATE INTERNET STUPID
No biggie, I was able to manually install it. Just thought it was interesting that Google is also trying to throw its weight behind HTML 5 just like Apple has, the difference being that Apple is evil when they do it.
Also, NO FLASH SUPPORT! ZOMG I THOUGHT STEVE JOBS **** RAPE MACHINE **** FLASH HATE INTERNET STUPID
No biggie, I was able to manually install it. Just thought it was interesting that Google is also trying to throw its weight behind HTML 5 just like Apple has, the difference being that Apple is evil when they do it.
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09-17-2012, 03:44 AM
#229
I went ahead and flashed the sgs3. Running the monthly build of CM10. Flashing seems easier, more straightforward, and faster than it was with the captivate. I'm keeping my Att line alive and carrying around the one x still. Its funny how many places I go that att has terrible reception, while this verizon phone keeps chugging along happily.
Battery life is substantially better than the one x. I can go through a day with a few hours of screen on and have ~50% battery left when I go to sleep. At the same time, the one x can sit idle, barely used and die before sleep rime. Poor signal seems to have a major effect on battery life. Cell standby ranked 30% in battery usage on the one x.
Battery life is substantially better than the one x. I can go through a day with a few hours of screen on and have ~50% battery left when I go to sleep. At the same time, the one x can sit idle, barely used and die before sleep rime. Poor signal seems to have a major effect on battery life. Cell standby ranked 30% in battery usage on the one x.
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10-01-2012, 03:39 PM
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Work just upgraded me from a BlackBerry Torch 9800 to an HTC OneX. This 4G LTE Android device is like Gee Whiz himself walked in and started doing coke with my cell phone. Makes my BlackBerry look like a sad retarded child. RIM is DONE. I've missed out on Android for so long... so much to learn...
Bryce: You are right about the battery, that's not super impressive. Everything else is **** though. I'm interested in your findings if you keep playing with the OneX.
Bryce: You are right about the battery, that's not super impressive. Everything else is **** though. I'm interested in your findings if you keep playing with the OneX.
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10-01-2012, 04:06 PM
#238
Looks like Slim Bean took Google Now out. FYI here is how to put it back: Samsung Galaxy S2 Jelly Bean: Install Very Light SlimBean Custom ROM [Android 4.1]
Google Now is sort of like Google's answer for Siri. But instead of asking it questions, it just gives you the info you need without you asking. For example, thanks to latitude, Google knows I leave work around 5:30. So at 5:15, I get a notification of the traffic between work and home (and how long it will take). It will also alert you when you need to leave for your meeting based on real-time traffic stuff. Lots of cool ****.
Google Now is sort of like Google's answer for Siri. But instead of asking it questions, it just gives you the info you need without you asking. For example, thanks to latitude, Google knows I leave work around 5:30. So at 5:15, I get a notification of the traffic between work and home (and how long it will take). It will also alert you when you need to leave for your meeting based on real-time traffic stuff. Lots of cool ****.
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