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Old 02-19-2007, 04:04 PM
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yeah, by wiser I meant "safer".
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I'm planning to split off of the outlet for the dryer and run a conduit behind the washer and dryer, then through the wall into the garage (laundry room is like an entry way between garage and house). Shouldn't be an issue with current draw since we have a gas dryer and the welder would essentially be a dedicated line.

The lincoln SP series are excellent welders for the money, that's likely what I'll get for doing everything in my garage. It will run on 110 so the TIG (which I will get sooner or later) will get the 220 line.
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here it is-

My compressor threw a rod today. Crafstman 110 unit that I've had for ten+ years. The only thing I can figure is some big temp changes left condesation in the cylinder. Aluminum rod just snapped in half. It's $170 for the replacement pump!
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
here it is-

My compressor threw a rod today. Crafstman 110 unit that I've had for ten+ years. The only thing I can figure is some big temp changes left condesation in the cylinder. Aluminum rod just snapped in half. It's $170 for the replacement pump!
I had a crapsman 110/220v compressor for ~17 yrs. I rebuilt mine, the replacement rod was SS!!! it was like ~$90.00, 2 yrs ago, Then something else let go and I just replaced it with another cheapy (they always have those 33 gals on sale for $269)...
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Yep- there's one right now for $300 that's the 33gal 6.4cfm @ 90psi with a bunch of tools I could ebay. And those specs rock my old dead unit. I just always swore the next one would be a 60gal floor mount, but alas we're back at 220v.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:23 PM
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Its so easy to run the line for a 220V. You should do it!!11one
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You gotta see my box, it's overloaded now as it is. It would require upgraded service from the street, a new sub panel and then underground conduit to the garage. And right now I'm spending (all) the dough on a basement office and nursery.
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bummer
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:35 PM
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m2:

Do you have this one?
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...2173_200312173

529 with the gun is a smokin deal.
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yes- but the amps are wrong. The 6441 is not 130, it's 80. Weldingdepot has it for $450. I got mine on ebay as a "used once floor model" for $260 +$50 shipping.

IMO- there are two things that make these "cheap" MIGs cheap- made in China, and low duty cycles. My CH looked incredibly similar to the harborfreight 110 MIG my buddy had ($200 on sale) and welded the same (when it was new). Most "hobby welders" can live with the low duty cycle since welding is usually a very small part of the work being done. You just need to be considerate of welding time when you've got a bunch of pieces to stick together and give the welder time to cool down.
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Thats why I'm just gonna fork over the big bucks the first time. Welding anything that is going under the hood will require something that has a decent duty cycle. Unless you don't mind waiting 6-7 minutes every total 10. The Riland tig machines from china are supposed to be pretty damn good for the money. Something like 60% duty cycle at 100A or something like that for the 160A models. That should be more than enough to weld most things I think. The only thing that might take that much amperage would maybe be aluminum to keep the heat up.

Also if you dont plan on welding aluminum, those dc only tigs that dont have the plasma built in too can be had for around 250. Check out the ebay seller smileytools.
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
Yep- there's one right now for $300 that's the 33gal 6.4cfm @ 90psi with a bunch of tools I could ebay. And those specs rock my old dead unit. I just always swore the next one would be a 60gal floor mount, but alas we're back at 220v.

My garage has a dedicated line, (house has 450A service) some day I 'll post a pic w/ specs, but after all the drooling over Sheldon's I'm too emabarassed...

I have plenty of 220V toys, welders, lift, saw, tc, ect....

Even though it's not listed, the crapsman 33 gal (I p/u the Vertical tank) can be converted to 220, (check the motor housing) as my old 25gal could as well, IIRC it's just swapping two wires on the motor, Also mine required a 30amp breaker on a 20amp dedicated line (local code allows 50% for start up motors). I needed semi portability at the time, but I'll get a bigger IR 'someday'...
It has no problems running my tc (Mine has the 4 extra hydraulic arms for low profiles/runflats, delrin/nylon heads, blahblahblah...) Or my large Snapon Double impact. It does kinda suck when bead blasting though, I go through a lot of air in a hurry But for most of my redneck stuff its fine...
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You could always add a second large tank and connect it in series with your existing compressor. Then the compressor will just fill both.
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Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
You could always add a second large tank and connect it in series with your existing compressor. Then the compressor will just fill both.
Yeah, I thought of using my old 25 gal tank, but being 17 years old, I decided to donate it to the local redneck economy with a big free sign...
(safety first )
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Originally Posted by Jefe
...I decided to donate it to the local redneck economy with a big free sign...
It's amazing how much time you can save yourself by putting your junk out at the street. There's always somebody who can (or thinks they can) use it. And I guess some goes to scrap- like crack engine blocks, cranks...
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Originally Posted by m2cupcar
It's amazing how much time you can save yourself by putting your junk out at the street. There's always somebody who can (or thinks they can) use it. And I guess some goes to scrap- like crack engine blocks, cranks...
no kidding... even couches on a rainy day find homes.

this thread sucks. makes me want a new welder and cart. anyone want a lincoln handy-mig 90A welder lightly used?
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Time for the welder. Gotta make up my mind. I'm thinking now to buy a generator to run a 220 welder instead of laying down cash on a 110 then having it suck, a la the above post.

I'll be a broke bitch buying both at once, but I'm more comfortable buying a 220 machine, I can build whatever I want. Anyone weld using a generator?

Lincoln has a new line of welders out too. I need a good welding forum, I lurk here sometimes http://www.weldingweb.com/

Last thing I want to do is buy the wrong ****. Buying a spool gun too
http://cgi.ebay.com/LINCOLN-MAGNUM-1...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/LINCOLN-POWER-MI...QQcmdZViewItem
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If you live in a house, you can grab 220VAC from the breaker panel, or at the range or dryer...

If not, I guess you'll need the generator and beer & steaks to keep the neighbors happy.
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I plan on just unplugging my dryer whenever I use mine. It's nice that its right beside the back door.
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Originally Posted by Ben
If you live in a house, you can grab 220VAC from the breaker panel, or at the range or dryer...

If not, I guess you'll need the generator and beer & steaks to keep the neighbors happy.
**** you're right.

Options:

Make a 100 yard extension cord, **** off everyone with no hot water IF it works.

Buy a 110 machine and regret it.

Buy a Miller 110/220 machine for way too much money.

Buy a 110 and a 220 when I can use it.

Buy a generator and build a insulated box. (also too much $) Neighbors are far enough away, this might just work. What do I need, 10K watts?
edit: word is I need about 5K watts to run a 220 machine. And a bunch of dynomat..

Move.

I feel like hustler
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