Well, if it's a financial decision, keep your BRZ :P

really, you need to drive them and see which one you like better. If you like the Mustang better, then awesome, you just saved yourself some coin. If you like the Camaro significantly better, then paying another $5k ish for the one you really want is not really a huge thing. If it were, you'd keep the BRZ.

No it's not a financial thing. I could go up to the dealer and drive one of them home tonight if I wanted.

My point more was, the 1LE is a monster, no doubt. And of course I want it just because it has all the cool stuff, but do I really need factory built HPDE car to drive 7 miles to work and then 7 miles back home? ON city streets or the Interstate. God at 35 I'm starting to think like an adult about buying a car................must do something ridiculous to make those thoughts go away.


But you are right, I do need to just go drive both.

Well, for the cost difference between 1LE and non-1LE, why wouldn't you?

You already said you'd want great suspension and super wide wheels/tires.. the 1LE has both right out of the box (285mm fronts, 305mm rears). The Magnetic ride should ride better on your drive to and from work, too. Recaros, bigger Brembos... I mean, you get all that stuff for about the same as what you'd pay for a good set of coilovers and wheels/tires in the aftermarket.

... and if you DON'T get the 1LE, the regular SS still outperforms the GT mustang, both in feel and on paper. BUT again that's not everyone's cup of tea.

Yeah yeah drive them :)

Should we start a new thread of "Tell me what car to buy and why" because I need help with the at or sub-$20k range that's new enough to not worry about even a bit.

yes, start your new thread.

And tag me in it.

I can move this topic into other thread too

Buy new base model Civic/Corolla.

Drive for 250k miles only changing fluids, brakes, tires.

Done.

or lightly used camry/accord

But that's depressing

Maybe 5 years ago I'd have agreed.

Now, I actually like using the wife's mazda 6 to daily to work because:
1) there is literally not 1 minute of my morning commute where I can go WOT in the stang, or even use any part of it's peformance
2) sitting in bumper to bumper traffic and not caring if someone hits the car is less stressful
3) parking anywhere in the lot and not caring if someone dings the car is less stressful
4) getting 28.6mpg while doing nothing but bumper to bumper is better than 15

The list goes on.

I really think I'm gonna get a beater for myself and keep the sports car in the garage for weekends and fun shenanigans

This. x10,000. Its why I bought the WRX from you and didn't care at all about the hooped up fenders :likecat:

Well, Mazda 6 is not a camry/accord/corolla/civic. The Mazda 6 is a NICE car, with good driving dynamics. It has a nicely styled, quality-feeling interior (relative to others in its class). It's a damn good looking car. It sounds sporty when you romp on it, even if it's not very quick.

That's what I'd recommend. you can buy a very decent brand new Mazda 3 for at or under $20k. Great option.

Miata or Z06? :)

Yup, I love how it looks.
But the transmission and throttle response is so bad it's almost dangerous.

When you need to stab the throttle in emergency situations, you get literally no response for a full 1-2 seconds, then finally the car downshifts and applies WAY more throttle than you asked for.
frustrating. but I can live with it I guess. otherwise great car and I like everything else. wish I could tune it :D

haha, that was like a year ago, my car turnover is about 6-12 per year :giggle:

currently the sports car is a 2015 Mustang GT

Really? I just got used to using the kickdown switch. I'd either go right up to it for one downshift, or go past the click and it would immediately kick down and go. But I didn't typically drive in as heavy of traffic as you do, maybe in all stop-and-go it doesn't work as well.

Yeah, my ex-wife drives a 2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring with the Tech Package...............that's a damn fine place to put down the miles. And it's such a large, nice vehicle and knocks down 40+ mpg on the highway.

But that was also a nearly $35k car once she had the dealer add their "Black out Package." So emblems/wheels/trim/etc all blacked out on a black car. Good looking and driving vehicle. If I didn't still want something fast, I'd seriously consider buying one for myself.

YAY urabus. I work as a technician at one of my local subaru dealerships and spend way to much time fixing blown up or broken subarus. currently own 4. 2006 outback 2.5i daily driver. 2005 LGT wagon 5MT with 290whp 315ft lbs at the tires. another 2005 LGT but this ones a sedan, also 5MT also same color, regal blue pearl. building the sedan for 450-500whp on a custom rotated turbo kit. built ej257 10mm je pistons, sti crank. manley con rods. acl bearing. arp harware. precision turbo. all the good stuff. oh and custom w25 2016 sti heads. and a 2002 legacy l 2.5i 5mt wagon that used to be my daily but now looking to sell because i bought a new daily. the 06 outback 2.5i. If anyone has subaru questions ill try to help as best I can!

that's a real small bore, custom?
:giggle:

done did a goof 100mm lol 10mm i might as well have a pitbike engine. stroke on subaru motors are so short.

haha

But I don't like thin walls. was the block scored that you couldn't go 99.75?