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Old Jul 15, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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lol @ paying $6k plus for an e-bike in a box when you can spend less than $2k for an e-bike in several boxes, and build it to your specs and needs.
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Just stopping in to say hi. ebikes are cool in theory but all kinds of people around here ride ones that are all decked out to look like some kind of motorcycle. love the looks of the specialized one but the price is redic.


I built a sprint race hybrid bike way back when I was in highschool. we were judged on simplicity and who could get to the end of the track first. took a starter motor for a v8 something and made a pretty large battery tray centered under the bike. it was fast but the starter motor doesnt like being run under load for long. in drag racer form we had 3 passes on our motor before it died but we were first every time. the feeling of that thing coming on was unreal.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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If Joe's bicycle has a motor... Is it a motorcycle? This one definitely is:



http://rideapart.jalopnik.com/rideap...-rs-1002755063
[O]nce you are out on the road (or likely a track) trying to string together a series of corners, the Mission gains one huge advantage: all of its performance — every single horsepower, every last lb-ft — is instantly available, all the time, simply by twisting the throttle. No need to chase revs, no finding yourself in the wrong gear. Just twist and rocket out of any corner, any time, using the Mission’s maximum shove. Which, with 120lb-ft — all the time — is an awful lot.
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
If Joe's bicycle has a motor... Is it a motorcycle?
Thought by that logic, normal motorcycles should be called enginecycles since they have engines and not motors. Engines go bang, motors make your windshield wipers move.
Old Aug 2, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shlammed
Just stopping in to say hi. ebikes are cool in theory but all kinds of people around here ride ones that are all decked out to look like some kind of motorcycle.
I've seen quite a lot of e-bikes here in SD county, and most of them look like... bicycles.


Originally Posted by shlammed
love the looks of the specialized
I'm fairly indifferent to it. It looks a tad too "designer-y" to me, though that is a minor point compared to its abysmal specifications.


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
If Joe's bicycle has a motor... Is it a motorcycle?
According to state law in CA, yes, it is a motorcycle.

If it complied with the rules for maximum speed and motor power, then it would be a motorized bicycle.
Old Aug 6, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I've seen quite a lot of e-bikes here in SD county, and most of them look like... bicycles.
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this is what we get here.

electric "backup" power and fold away cranks with pedals on them


only people that ride them are teenagers and people who lost their licence.



In ontario (iirc) as long as you have the pedals installed you are governed like a bicycle. as soon as you remove the crank/pedal you are a motorcycle.
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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So, getting settled into my new life on the wrong cost, and... what's this?



The number of bikes has been doubled!
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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
The number of bikes has been doubled!
Better build? Different goals? No folding lightweight?

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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:09 PM
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Remember, e-bikes are not legal in NY.
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Remember, e-bikes are not legal in NY.
Yes, that's true.

Non-CARB-approved turbo systems were also not legal in CA.

Realistically, the police here seem mostly concerned just with the Chinese food delivery guys riding the wrong way down one-way streets (95% of all streets are one-way here). Trouble is that you can't ride a bike through the Holland tunnel, and Omnibike is a bit too large and heavy to carry down the stairs and then onto the PATH train.

At present, Omnibike is relegated to weekend grocery-getter duty on this side of the river. Picobike the $95 Walmart Wonder is the daily ride to get from my apartment to the PATH station on this side (mostly because I don't want to leave Omnibike parked outside the train station all day), and CitiBike is the daily ride on the NY side of the river.

Incidentally, even forgetting about all of the electronics, there is a huge difference between a $450 bike and a $95 bike. I'd forgotten how crappy it was to ride a crappy bike...


Originally Posted by Nagase
Better build? Different goals? No folding lightweight?
Wheels are in motion, both literally and figuratively.

This is not the final solution.
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
This is not the final solution.
The Jews are glad to hear it.
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
The Jews are glad to hear it.
******* Jews and their observance of the Sabbath... When I was cruising around the upper-east side today, I got a serious hankering for a lox bagel. Well guess what? None of the ******* bagel shops are open on Saturday.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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Joe why didnt you buy a used bike? I'm sure for the same price as the shiti bike you could have gotten a decent used one.
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Joe why didnt you buy a used bike? I'm sure for the same price as the shiti bike you could have gotten a decent used one.
Because short timeframe for purchase (needed it immediately) and short intended lifespan (I only need it temporarily.)
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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I find those reasons acceptable.
Old Sep 17, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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So I believe that I have identified one shortcoming in the Citibike system: balancing.



This is where bikes would be if there were bikes available at the 33rd & 6th station (just outside the PATH station in Manhattan), if any bikes were, in fact, available at that location at 7:15am.

Or across the street at Broadway & 32.

Or up two blocks.

Etc.


For some reason, the distribution of bikes seems to be not only massively asymmetrical, but also insensitive to time. In both the morning and the afternoon, there is a paucity of bikes at the major west-side transportation hubs, and a surplus of bikes at Grand Central.

Now, I could see the supply of bikes shifting from one side to the other and back over the course of the day, but from what I have observed, this seems not to be the case. If I were drawing a broad demographic generalization, I would conclude that all New Yorkers constantly travel from west to east, and never return. Or, if they do return, they do so by first crossing the Atlantic ocean, traversing all of Europe and Asia, swimming across the Pacific to California and then hitchhiking across all of the US before finally arriving back on the west side.
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Did you at least get your bagel?
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The thread title does not deliver.
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Did you at least get your bagel?
Yes, I did finally find a bagel shop on east 83rd run by gentiles which was open and serving. And for $9, I got a rather good lox bagel. I shall be curious to see if The Bagel Curse continues.



Originally Posted by Nagase
The thread title does not deliver.
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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