The FFS crew is at it again....
07-01-2011, 12:37 PM
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That'll get deleted quick, lol.
For reference once it does get deleted:
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Originally Posted by buffon01
Then maybe the real problem, that most of us have pointed out before, is the poorly engineered kit. Fuel as an intercooler? Powercards?
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Im sitting in class trying not to laugh at this.
07-01-2011, 03:56 PM
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may want to address/post that...Do it. We all did. I kinda feel bad for the poor ***** that get into this kinda ****. However, it is the individual's choice to believe some retard that's trying to rediscover hot water.
That socal pat is a complete moron.
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07-01-2011, 09:04 PM
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The last time I trolled an m.net post, I was warned for trolling, with some mod saying "This junk is just not useful."
5 hours later I received an apology PM from a moderator and the warning was revoked.
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07-02-2011, 12:07 PM
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I know of a hotside intercooled mp62 setup running a MSPNP making well over 220rwhp........ on a so-so tune and..... 10psi. **** the same car made 216rwhp with a m45 @ 9ish psi.
Not to mention the original and true coldside s/c setup, Big Gulp, makes some odd power at 17psi lol. (270ish?)
Not to mention the original and true coldside s/c setup, Big Gulp, makes some odd power at 17psi lol. (270ish?)
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07-04-2011, 01:39 AM
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Y'all are lucky I'm high as **** at the moment:
[Tim] Good afternoon fast forward, this is tom
[bro] hi tom, how ya doin?
[Tim] Not too bad, how about yourself
[bro] pretty good. I was looking at your kit for sale, the supercharger
[Tim] mmhmm... yes
[bro] do you have anything to say about it?
[Tim] I'm sorry, say again?
[bro] What can you tell me about it?
[Tim] Uhh, our kit? What would you like to know?
[bro] Well, I mean, I was reading on m.net, I was reading this thing about this guy saying that it doesn't really make all the power... is there something wrong with it? Or...
[Tim] No, we're still trying to solve his problem. There's 300 kits out there, they all make power but one. I don't think it's a kit problem.
[bro] Really?
[Tim] So, yeah, really.
[bro] Ok.
[Tim] He's got a problem of some sort and we're trying to figure it out. We don't know if he's got his uh... uh... timing belt set right, his cams adjusted correctly, a bad set of coils or a bad ground someplace or...
[bro] Ok, my main thing is efficiency because, you know, I track my car and I was just.. I was looking at, obviously, other supercharger kits. Would you say that supercharger kits are better than turbo kits?
[Tim] Well, I'm a supercharger fan, obviously, that's what I make. I'm not a fan of turbos, but, ya know to each their own. They all have their own place in life. <something garbled> They make a lot of power up top, if you don't care about torque.
<Garbled>
[Tim] More, you're kind of <something?> and breaking up a little.
[bro] Would you say that your supercharger kits are more efficient than, like, a turbocharger kit?
[Tim] Well, I mean, they're, they're... define efficient, you know, the supercharger kits make instant power, instant torque, <more?> torque, where turbos kind of make <lots of high end power?> Uh, you know there are people out there who can make more than enough with turbos too but the way they do it is a <something?> that's too big, a big blow off valve on 'em and there's <something?> It's kind of hard to compare one to the other, it's like saying “Do you like Ford or Chevrolet?” they're just different <means? beasts?> for different people.
[bro] So, do you think the blow off valve helps it make more power?
[Tim] Well, no, the blow off valve is what relieves power so that they can put on a turbo that's too big.
[bro] Oh, ok. What if I, like, I was looking at your kit and it says, like, “power cards” how does that work? Does that replace a megasquirt? <something>
[Tim] Yeah, well, we sell a kit where you can put megasquirt on if you want.
[bro] My whole thing is reliability, because I track my car obviously...
[Tim] Well, I got close to 300 kits out there, they all work fine but a couple. So, well, one at the moment. I don't know what your, they've been out there for seven years. I'd say the reliability is pretty good.
[bro] Yeah, but do you know anyone who actually drives their cars hard? I've been to some...
[Tim] I have people who race their cars all the time – on the track, autocross...
[bro] I'm trying to ask you a question man, you're not letting me finish. Do you want to make a sale or don't you?
[Tim] OK
[bro] Look, I take my car to the track and I beat the absolute **** out of it, OK? I need something that's reliable, that's <garbled> are the other supercharger kits, they have this thing... You know, my main... <garbled> I was wondering about the reliability of the kit. You know, I don't want to buy...
[Tim] Well, I mean, superchargers are reliable. They been puttin' 'em on <somethings> and GMs and Fords and Mustangs and stuff for just ages and ages, if they want reliable, <garbled>. Turbos need to be rebuilt too, ya know. I'm not sure how to exactly answer that question because magnuson says the thing is good for 100,000 miles or two years... Uh...
[bro] Yeah, but the amount of wear that I'm putting on it is my concern...
[Tim] But, my point is, that we have a lot of people who track with the superchargers on them, we have people who autocross with superchargers, people who ¼ mile on superchargers, ya know, there's people that track with turbos and ¼ mile with turbos and autocross with turbos, although that's the wrong place to put a turbo.
[bro] Why would you say that?
[Tim] Well, I mean, autocrossing, there's no long straights, you're not looking for high-end horsepower, what you're looking for is all those, that torque coming out all those small, those sharp turns and stuff, you know, if it was me, and I was autocrossing, I'd be either be running, uh, I'd be running a supercharger, that way I'd have low-end torque coming out of the turns.
[bro] I was reading on here about the “ECool” system. Could you tell me a little bit about that?
[Tim] Yeah, well, you know, liquid cooling has been around for, ohhh, since before World War II, and they used water injection before cooling and we use fuel. Fuel is not as efficient as water, but more than enough efficient to give more of the knock threshold and you have to add extra fuel anyhow, so it kills two stones with one bird. [LOLLL]
[bro] So, how do you go about adding this extra fuel – an extra injector or something?
[Tim] There are TWO extra injectors mounted in the side of the intake manifold, strategically located to create near-perfect fuel distribution so <garbled> fuel mixes with air and comes out of the blower.
[bro] Why not just run an intercooler?
[Tim] It helps... <some bullshit I can't make out>
[bro] Couldn't one argue that a cold-side supercharger kit's not properly designed?
[Tim] You could...
[bro] I mean, that would make sense, wouldn't it?
[Tim] That my kit's not properly designed?
[bro] Yeah, I mean, I think you're kit's piece of **** from everything I've read about it.
[Tim] Yeah... that's what I thought... I thought that's where you're headed with the whole thing...
[bro] Really?
[Tim] I saw the post, yeah.
[bro] You saw my post?
[Tim] Yeah...
[bro] I really don't like you, I think you're a ******* idiot.
[Tim] I know, yeah...
[bro] I'll tell you what, Tim, go eat ****
[Tim] Yeah, I know. I thought so.
[Tim] Good afternoon fast forward, this is tom
[bro] hi tom, how ya doin?
[Tim] Not too bad, how about yourself
[bro] pretty good. I was looking at your kit for sale, the supercharger
[Tim] mmhmm... yes
[bro] do you have anything to say about it?
[Tim] I'm sorry, say again?
[bro] What can you tell me about it?
[Tim] Uhh, our kit? What would you like to know?
[bro] Well, I mean, I was reading on m.net, I was reading this thing about this guy saying that it doesn't really make all the power... is there something wrong with it? Or...
[Tim] No, we're still trying to solve his problem. There's 300 kits out there, they all make power but one. I don't think it's a kit problem.
[bro] Really?
[Tim] So, yeah, really.
[bro] Ok.
[Tim] He's got a problem of some sort and we're trying to figure it out. We don't know if he's got his uh... uh... timing belt set right, his cams adjusted correctly, a bad set of coils or a bad ground someplace or...
[bro] Ok, my main thing is efficiency because, you know, I track my car and I was just.. I was looking at, obviously, other supercharger kits. Would you say that supercharger kits are better than turbo kits?
[Tim] Well, I'm a supercharger fan, obviously, that's what I make. I'm not a fan of turbos, but, ya know to each their own. They all have their own place in life. <something garbled> They make a lot of power up top, if you don't care about torque.
<Garbled>
[Tim] More, you're kind of <something?> and breaking up a little.
[bro] Would you say that your supercharger kits are more efficient than, like, a turbocharger kit?
[Tim] Well, I mean, they're, they're... define efficient, you know, the supercharger kits make instant power, instant torque, <more?> torque, where turbos kind of make <lots of high end power?> Uh, you know there are people out there who can make more than enough with turbos too but the way they do it is a <something?> that's too big, a big blow off valve on 'em and there's <something?> It's kind of hard to compare one to the other, it's like saying “Do you like Ford or Chevrolet?” they're just different <means? beasts?> for different people.
[bro] So, do you think the blow off valve helps it make more power?
[Tim] Well, no, the blow off valve is what relieves power so that they can put on a turbo that's too big.
[bro] Oh, ok. What if I, like, I was looking at your kit and it says, like, “power cards” how does that work? Does that replace a megasquirt? <something>
[Tim] Yeah, well, we sell a kit where you can put megasquirt on if you want.
[bro] My whole thing is reliability, because I track my car obviously...
[Tim] Well, I got close to 300 kits out there, they all work fine but a couple. So, well, one at the moment. I don't know what your, they've been out there for seven years. I'd say the reliability is pretty good.
[bro] Yeah, but do you know anyone who actually drives their cars hard? I've been to some...
[Tim] I have people who race their cars all the time – on the track, autocross...
[bro] I'm trying to ask you a question man, you're not letting me finish. Do you want to make a sale or don't you?
[Tim] OK
[bro] Look, I take my car to the track and I beat the absolute **** out of it, OK? I need something that's reliable, that's <garbled> are the other supercharger kits, they have this thing... You know, my main... <garbled> I was wondering about the reliability of the kit. You know, I don't want to buy...
[Tim] Well, I mean, superchargers are reliable. They been puttin' 'em on <somethings> and GMs and Fords and Mustangs and stuff for just ages and ages, if they want reliable, <garbled>. Turbos need to be rebuilt too, ya know. I'm not sure how to exactly answer that question because magnuson says the thing is good for 100,000 miles or two years... Uh...
[bro] Yeah, but the amount of wear that I'm putting on it is my concern...
[Tim] But, my point is, that we have a lot of people who track with the superchargers on them, we have people who autocross with superchargers, people who ¼ mile on superchargers, ya know, there's people that track with turbos and ¼ mile with turbos and autocross with turbos, although that's the wrong place to put a turbo.
[bro] Why would you say that?
[Tim] Well, I mean, autocrossing, there's no long straights, you're not looking for high-end horsepower, what you're looking for is all those, that torque coming out all those small, those sharp turns and stuff, you know, if it was me, and I was autocrossing, I'd be either be running, uh, I'd be running a supercharger, that way I'd have low-end torque coming out of the turns.
[bro] I was reading on here about the “ECool” system. Could you tell me a little bit about that?
[Tim] Yeah, well, you know, liquid cooling has been around for, ohhh, since before World War II, and they used water injection before cooling and we use fuel. Fuel is not as efficient as water, but more than enough efficient to give more of the knock threshold and you have to add extra fuel anyhow, so it kills two stones with one bird. [LOLLL]
[bro] So, how do you go about adding this extra fuel – an extra injector or something?
[Tim] There are TWO extra injectors mounted in the side of the intake manifold, strategically located to create near-perfect fuel distribution so <garbled> fuel mixes with air and comes out of the blower.
[bro] Why not just run an intercooler?
[Tim] It helps... <some bullshit I can't make out>
[bro] Couldn't one argue that a cold-side supercharger kit's not properly designed?
[Tim] You could...
[bro] I mean, that would make sense, wouldn't it?
[Tim] That my kit's not properly designed?
[bro] Yeah, I mean, I think you're kit's piece of **** from everything I've read about it.
[Tim] Yeah... that's what I thought... I thought that's where you're headed with the whole thing...
[bro] Really?
[Tim] I saw the post, yeah.
[bro] You saw my post?
[Tim] Yeah...
[bro] I really don't like you, I think you're a ******* idiot.
[Tim] I know, yeah...
[bro] I'll tell you what, Tim, go eat ****
[Tim] Yeah, I know. I thought so.
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