Saturn SL2. dead nuts reliable, just make sure you keep oil in it and it wont die. Just dont do too many burnouts or you'll throw the diff pin. 30-40 mpg pretty easy, it has a very awesome mechanical feel of everything and everything seems to be in just the right spots.
Stupidly easy to work on (not quite miata level), stock for stock handles better than any civic. Very limited aftermarket, turbo cars spend most of their lives on jack stands. Check for rust in the rear door sills and the front sub frame where the sway bar connects. |
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 980041)
Saturn SL2. dead nuts reliable, just make sure you keep oil in it and it wont die. Just dont do too many burnouts or you'll throw the diff pin. 30-40 mpg pretty easy, it has a very awesome mechanical feel of everything and everything seems to be in just the right spots.
Stupidly easy to work on (not quite miata level), stock for stock handles better than any civic. Very limited aftermarket, turbo cars spend most of their lives on jack stands. Check for rust in the rear door sills and the front sub frame where the sway bar connects. The saturn 1.9L is not what I'd call reliable, or fuel efficient. They're junk. |
You could find volvo 240s that arent too bad and those red blocks will run forever.
Other things that havent been mentioned-Older subaru legacy, dare I say it Crown victoria-indestructible, body on frame, V8, can be made to handle decently. 20mpg might be pushing it, forget 30. Forget the BMW-anything that cheap will be a rust bucket guaranteed. Like the Maxima idea but I don't think I've seen a decent one cheap Find a 240 and drive it forever or slap a turbo on it |
Originally Posted by 2ndGearRubber
(Post 980042)
The saturn 1.9L is not what I'd call reliable, or fuel efficient. They're junk.
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Styrofoam engines.
my wife might shit if I get a volvo and slap some fat black nascar wheels on it, raise it a half inch in the rear for some dirt track style rake and make it look a swedish thug then make her drive it.... ohhhhhhhh mama |
I also have a dream of a 240 wagon bucket hot rod. yes with huge tires outside the rear fenders and exposed front clip. MAD SCIENTIST STYLE.
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W123 Benz.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361159419 If you get a Turbodiesel, you can run propane as an additive for better power with the same mileage. :naughty: The saturn 1.9L is not what I'd call reliable, or fuel efficient. They're junk. He ended up shelling out $1600 for the installation of a replacement twin cam engine ($1200) it was stupid expensive for such a throwaway car. |
Don't laugh until you drive it, but Ford SVT contour, they're pretty sporty and fairly reliable--they're essentially Mazdas.
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Until that engine breaks and it costs another $1800 to fix it.
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Originally Posted by Sam TII
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Don't laugh until you drive it, but Ford SVT contour, they're pretty sporty and fairly reliable--they're essentially Mazdas.
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My father had a Contour. What a piece of junk. Parts like badges kept falling off, the interior was terrible (cheap, thin plastic) and it had uncontrolable torque steer.
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Currently leaning toward the volvo wagon, but this is still very hypothetical.
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Manual 740t wagon:
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I normally dont like VWs but the old GTIs are pretty cool and I found MK2 and MK3s for your price range.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 I just had a customer buy a Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (the one with a s/c) for 1900 I dont know if that is an exceptionally low price or not. You could also look for the other GM counterparts, Buick regal GS and Boneville SSei There is always a turbo dodge. Had the Omni, Shadow, sundance, there are really too many for me to remember. They make a hell of a sleeper. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 Saab https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 Found lots of 626s proteges and millenias but that all seems boring unless you can find a gt I always thought an Acura Legend would make a classy dd. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 Or maybe an early 90s Cressida since its RWD https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 If your not worried about performance a late 90s Camry is dead nuts reliable. Two friends have them one is about 250K the other is 360K. Outside of door handles that break all the time, they work great and a/c is cold as hell. We have done everything from off road to jump them. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 I do love the big body GM sedans that had the LT1 (94-96). Like the Buick Roadmaster, Cadillac fleetwood, and chevy caprice. Put a set of Impala SS 17" wheels on them and drop the nose a little and they look good, plus the 275hp. I promise I will help with LT1 problems haha. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 What about this big classy bitch (found it in my search for LT1 powered GM goodness) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 I found an Olds Aurora they have a v8. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361210435 On a side note I found a celica all trac turbo for 1600 I am sitting here seriously considering buying it. |
The Grand Prix GTP is a good option, but don't get the cheapest one you can find. The supercharger will be smoked, have no oil it it, the engine will have a blown head gasket, etc. etc. This is a car meant for a specific market, that was primarily bought by little old ladies and not properly maintained. The 3.8 V6 is a great engine, and responds well to bigger pulleys.
I wouldn't touch any Chevy with an LT1 if you're looking to stay cheap. It's an old school SBC with a special water pump, opticrap dizzy, and reverse flow cooling. Get a LS-series or any good old fashioned SBC. The LT's are bastard children and their parts are more expensive. The Olds Aurora utilizes a neutered Cadillac Northstar V8. It takes like 7.5 quarts of oil, and any shop will charge you $6.99 per quart past the four their oil change comes with. Or you can go to Jiffy Lube, who will assume that it's a GM V8 and takes 4.5 quarts. Then you can come see me about an engine replacement (hint: it's not cheap.) Also, I wouldn't have anyone touch that engine without having them be well-versed in the Northstar. (IIRC, you can take a Northstar apart in a way that it can never be put back together.) |
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I also second the saturn nomination. I have lots of customers that drive them and the only catastrophic failures i have seen have been from neglect (no coolant/no oil), and they do have a nice mechanical feel to everything. Not a fan of the L300s though that 6 cylinder is a pain in the ass.
SW2 is wagon and SL2 is sedan https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...mDIZqTg5HOWcVw E38 w/ M Parallels https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...3--OaLDCNmM7e5 E28s and E34s https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361212674 http://www.germanboost.com/attachmen...4&d=1294876016 Everyone knows the different 3 series 420SEL http://images.craigslist.org/3F93J23...3a3ec9186e.jpg If you can get a 300d for that price, around here they are hard to find but a friend was about to get one for around 2K, dont know how rough it was when he first got it. He has the factory turbo maxed and its lowered. Its cool as hell http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...x/IMG_3680.jpg |
Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
(Post 980210)
The Grand Prix GTP is a good option, but don't get the cheapest one you can find. The supercharger will be smoked, have no oil it it, the engine will have a blown head gasket, etc. etc. This is a car meant for a specific market, that was primarily bought by little old ladies and not properly maintained. The 3.8 V6 is a great engine, and responds well to bigger pulleys.
I wouldn't touch any Chevy with an LT1 if you're looking to stay cheap. It's an old school SBC with a special water pump, opticrap dizzy, and reverse flow cooling. Get a LS-series or any good old fashioned SBC. The LT's are bastard children and their parts are more expensive. The Olds Aurora utilizes a neutered Cadillac Northstar V8. It takes like 7.5 quarts of oil, and any shop will charge you $6.99 per quart past the four their oil change comes with. Or you can go to Jiffy Lube, who will assume that it's a GM V8 and takes 4.5 quarts. Then you can come see me about an engine replacement (hint: it's not cheap.) Also, I wouldn't have anyone touch that engine without having them be well-versed in the Northstar. (IIRC, you can take a Northstar apart in a way that it can never be put back together.) The optis arent near as bad as the internet makes you think, i used GMs and remans, they have all been reliable except shit I caused myself, like cracking the rotor or leaving a vacuum line off. I have a 170K mile LT1 that revs to 7K rpm everyday and the ONLY opti failures the car has ever seen where directly cause by me. Parts arent more expensive though, most of it is GM parts bin stuff. |
See, I'd like to use one of the Opti style crab caps on my 87 TPI to make the wire routing clean and good looking. Too bad they all cross-fired so bad that no one makes them for the older Dizzy's anymore.
I'm still kind of leery on electric water pumps on a DD. I know quality has gone up by leaps and bounds over just the last five years, but I dunno. Aren't the LT1 specific go-fast parts more expensive than the SBC or LSx equivalents? Good aluminum heads come with a premium, $1500 for AFR SBC 195cc Eliminators, vs $1900 for AFR LT1 195cc Eliminators. Plus special intakes/throttlebodies and other oddities to hunt down. I had a 93-96 Ford Taurus SHO Automatic. Orphan engines suck to find parts for. The current owner still calls me when shit breaks. :vash: Will never buy a car with such little aftermarket support again (although I might buy a SHO engine for a swap, such a sweet little bastich. Too bad the rest of the car was a Taurus) |
wut u say y8s?
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 980177)
I can Amtrak out to Atalanta, drive it up to you Matt. Then Amtrak back down to Charleston. Lets make this happen.
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