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Old 04-27-2009, 01:20 PM   #1
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Isn't it great that in this post-9/11 era that we have wonderful inter-agency coordination so that everyone is aware of what is going on, particularly in NYC? That way there is no unnecessary panic.

Low-Flying Plane in Manhattan Was a 'Photo-Op,' FAA Says - WSJ.com
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They didn't notice the airplane was Air Force One?

"OH MY GOD!! THEY HIJACKED AIR FORCE ONE!!!"
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They didn't notice the airplane was Air Force One?

"OH MY GOD!! THEY HIJACKED AIR FORCE ONE!!!"
Yeah really, stupid *** people.
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Isn't it great that in this post-9/11 era that we have wonderful inter-agency coordination so that everyone is aware of what is going on, particularly in NYC? That way there is no unnecessary panic.

Low-Flying Plane in Manhattan Was a 'Photo-Op,' FAA Says - WSJ.com
Maybe it wasn't thought all the way through by those responsible for planning it, but to play devil's advocate, they were practicing good operational security by not broadcasting it.

As for the guy getting reprimanded for not telling the Mayor, are you kidding me? He was told the information was secret (or at least confidential, the article conflicts itself), if it was his job to pass it to the Mayor he would have been instructed to do so. To leak classified information can be considered espionage in some circumstances, so this guy was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. Someone felt the Mayor didn't have a need to know, and after seeing his reaction, it probably best he wasn't told; he seems like a blabbermouth.
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My family and friends who work and/or live in the city thought it was a real good idea

Obama is a ******* idiot.
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My family and friends who work and/or live in the city thought it was a real good idea

Obama is a ******* idiot.
Obama taught me that photo ops are the most important thing a president can do for his country.
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yes, this is clearly the defining moment of his administration.
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yes, this is clearly the defining moment of his administration.
Yeah, I agree it's a shame he can't come up with anything better.

Maybe he should buy ^get another dog.
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Yes, because the president's big idea was to have a photo shoot of his plane. He's not busy with anything else what-so-ever, and just figured he'd focus his time on thinking up the worst possible location for a plane photo shoot.

Let's all be idiots and blame this on Obama.
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it's not like he stopped for a 3 week vacation, right? RIGHT?
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And you're wrong if you agree with Sean Hannity
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Maybe it wasn't thought all the way through by those responsible for planning it, but to play devil's advocate, they were practicing good operational security by not broadcasting it.

As for the guy getting reprimanded for not telling the Mayor, are you kidding me? He was told the information was secret (or at least confidential, the article conflicts itself), if it was his job to pass it to the Mayor he would have been instructed to do so. To leak classified information can be considered espionage in some circumstances, so this guy was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. Someone felt the Mayor didn't have a need to know, and after seeing his reaction, it probably best he wasn't told; he seems like a blabbermouth.

It's not even that deep. The person who authorized the flight had to make notifications to the municipalites because the plane was (I believe) flying in restricted airspace. I'm sure this is something that is done on a regular basis, maybe not that specific location that often, but the procedures and notification are the same. He most like assumed when he made his notifications to the appropriate agencies in NY, they did their job and notified who they were suppose too. Apparently they didn't. In actuality, and this is just my opinion, no one in that process thought anything of it because it was AF1. It was probably business as usual. All in the process probably after the fact thought about it and said..."hmmm, that was probably not a good idea, probably should have told more people" Also, the president generally does not keep tabs on what AF one is doing on a daily basis.
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Yo Brain,

That's wiggity wack, yo!

Peeeese!
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He most like assumed when he made his notifications to the appropriate agencies in NY, they did their job and notified who they were suppose too. Apparently they didn't.
Exactly! And if he had notified anyone he wasn't instructed to, punishment could have been just as swift and severe. There's no disagreement from me. You're retired AF, you know how that goes.
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ummm, if they has just photoshopped it......it would have saved taxpayers a boatload, instead of wasting all of that jet fuel

government morons.
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Great way to "update AF1 file photos"...geesh.
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ummm, if they has just photoshopped it......it would have saved taxpayers a boatload, instead of wasting all of that jet fuel

government morons.
You watch the daily show don't you?
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haha.....no.....but i am assuming he said something similar.
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Obama taught me that photo ops are the most important thing a president can do for his country.
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My family and friends who work and/or live in the city thought it was a real good idea

Obama is a ******* idiot.



..because one facepalm wasn't enough.




I honestly think there was some other ulterior motif behind this "photoshoot". Like what has been said, it could have been 'shopped, they didn't need to use a damn F-16..could have used a Leerjet or something less threatening, they just happened to do it on a monday...the day that most people are in the city, it wouldn;t have been hard to make an announcement to the general public if it's truely a harmless fly-over....for ***** sake as much as they run those damn "switch to DTV" ads as I see, they could have easily run some ads up there.

Someone made a bad decision to do this.. but it sure as hell wasn't Obama...
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You're wrong about virtues of Christianity
And you're wrong if you agree with Sean Hannity
If you think that pride is about nationality, you're wrong

You're wrong when you imprison people turning tricks
And you're wrong about trickle down economics
If you think that punk rock doesn't mix with politics, you're wrong

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If you kill for the thrill of the hunt
You're wrong 'bout wearing fur and not hating Ann Coulter
Cause she's a cunted ----

You're wrong if you celebrate Columbus Day
And You're wrong if you think there will be a Judgement Day
If you're a charter member of the NRA, you're wrong

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And you're wrong if you don't question your government
If you think her reproductive rights are inconsequent, you're wrong

You're wrong fighting Jihad, your blind faith in God
Your religions are all flawed,
You're wrong about drug use, when its not abuse
I hope you never reproduce

You're getting high on the downlow
A victim of Cointelpro
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Wow never figured you to listen to that. I can't remember the band now, but it comes up on my Pandora about once a week. Great song.
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